Carvin Legacy VL100

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#31 Post by Jeroen » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:12 am

No, the Axe-fx's are used for effects & switching only.

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#32 Post by paulh123 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:30 am

the power amp section on the 2nd head is used for the stereo split,so you simply take the 2nd(normally r/h side)channel out of your fx processor or pedal if it it has stereo outs,into the fx loop return of the 2nd head.

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#33 Post by dc27 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:02 am

so the second head's EQ is rendered completely obsolete? that would explain the weird settings. So where do the 3's come into it then? surely it must be the same situation but with different model heads right? so does that mean there's 4 feeds from the pedals in the loop?

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#34 Post by paulh123 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:41 am

dc27 wrote:so the second head's EQ is rendered completely obsolete? that would explain the weird settings. So where do the 3's come into it then? surely it must be the same situation but with different model heads right? so does that mean there's 4 feeds from the pedals in the loop?
yes thats right,none of the knobs on the 2nd head will do anything.

the setup is the same regardless of which amp/model is used.

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#35 Post by dc27 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:57 am

paulh123 wrote:
dc27 wrote:so the second head's EQ is rendered completely obsolete? that would explain the weird settings. So where do the 3's come into it then? surely it must be the same situation but with different model heads right? so does that mean there's 4 feeds from the pedals in the loop?
yes thats right,none of the knobs on the 2nd head will do anything.

the setup is the same regardless of which amp/model is used.
That makes sense!

But going back to Jeroen, what exactly does the Axe FX switch between? My head's telling me its dealing with the effects that aren't seen on the board (delay, chorus etc) but I feel like its doing something else.. In theory, a Legacy set up the same combined with the same pedals should get you the tone, just without the modulation and delay. So why doesn't it? Part of me doesn't believe that he leaves the amp modelling in the Axe FX alone.. There has to be something secret, or there'd be no issue recreating/releasing his patches. Or could it just be his legacies are different to production? If they were the same then why would he label one 'main' instead of just using either?

I know its a lot of questions, its just I felt the need to get some questions answered that I couldn't find before buying mine to help other people in the same spot!

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#36 Post by Santi Rigolizio » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:45 am

that's simple: Turn the volume up! The Legacy does need some volume but it's an amazing amp. Don't try to play it at bedroom level. No point. If you do though, turn the amp volume up and use a volume pedal in the FX loop (acts like a master volume) and bring the volume down.
Hope that helps

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#37 Post by dc27 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:43 am

Santi Rigolizio wrote:that's simple: Turn the volume up! The Legacy does need some volume but it's an amazing amp. Don't try to play it at bedroom level. No point. If you do though, turn the amp volume up and use a volume pedal in the FX loop (acts like a master volume) and bring the volume down.
Hope that helps
I do that anyway. Still found that its pretty loud even with the pedal almost off, so I might reinstall the master volume as well to help a bit. TONE FOR DAYS.

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#38 Post by StratVibe » Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:41 pm

Santi Rigolizio wrote:that's simple: Turn the volume up! The Legacy does need some volume but it's an amazing amp. Don't try to play it at bedroom level. No point. If you do though, turn the amp volume up and use a volume pedal in the FX loop (acts like a master volume) and bring the volume down.
Hope that helps
8) LOL yea at bedroom volumes its got a real nasty Low mids area that freaks out if you have have much Gain on at all. Almost sounds like a bad tube but its not, it just needs to breathe more. It acts like at low volumes it makes the whole tone stack just flabby.

I have been in many bands since I got my Legacy 1 and it seems to do most anything if you understand how to use the tone section. Its a bit bass heavy but that works well on some music and needs to be way down for other kinds of music.

Mine has been used on anything from Tool to Southern rock to Classic rock and its done it all very well. Quite a wide range of settings for the tone sections to cover all that ground though. You can't just pick one setting for everything.

Oh yea.... its loud as F**k. The other guitar player in my band has a Marshall and I just beat him to death and I'm not even pushing the Legacy much yet.

I took the front panel off and took the wood backing off the front grill and installed a small fan inside to keep it running cool and I never have a heat problem.

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If you can run less preamp gain it will be a lot more of a tone monster as well. My preamp gain is usually no more than 4-5 for most stuff and I let the power tubes do the rest. Yes I play pretty damn loud. :lol:

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#39 Post by dc27 » Mon May 18, 2015 11:17 am

It really is a beast of an amp, so damn loud!

Got around to using it in the studio, and you can get the EXACT tone using an SM57 and a couple of C414's. I think people seem to forget how much a microphone and its placement will vary the sound of an amplifier, let alone the post production..

To cut it short, if you're reading this and considering buying one, DO IT :headbang

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#40 Post by swine666 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:40 pm

dc27 wrote:Thinking about getting one and had a few questions..

1. seen lots of people saying its not 'instant vai'. True or false and how close can you get without the whole axe fx system? Im after something similar to the tone from the jemini demo, obviously not counting the delay or the slight modulation there is on the signal.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBLnB3ze5Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

2. if I plugged my ds1 into it, could I get a decent lead tone easily? (scooped mids, without any fizz, I had a H&K tubemeister and hated it)

3. does the clean channel take distortion pedals well? how is the lead channel?

4. Why choose this over say, a Marshall jvm 410?


Thanks for your help, hopefully you wont put me off! Or maybe you will, whichever is for the best :headbang
you wont regret getting a legacy,ive been playing for 40 odd years,ive opened up for gn r,plus tons of other acts,ive owned nearly every marshall ever,ive had lotsa boogies[my least fav amps actually,sound good alone in a band they lack ,unless u get the original m1],fenders well country and wesson great cleans,newer ampegs=awesome love them,voxs yeah they do what they say but not what u want,peaveys the classic 50 is my fav [toured the world with one of these ,used it opening for bon jovi at massive gigs]forget the 6505 unusable for rock to much gain and brittle the 5150s are cool 1992 models,forget h&k just terrible amps[they offered me a whole backline once for free just didnt suit my tone but some guys make them rock]and so on[throw in another 10 or so boutique brands],so after this awesome career im proud of [could have done more but abused myself to much ha ha]my final assement is this in the right order,1.carvin legacy1[sounds like my old jcm800 just better]2.a marshall super lead 1970 model[awesome amp]3.this is a weird one and they get bad reviews vox ac100chp,the stock amp is crap but if u know a good tech with a few diode and capacitor plus resistor changes these things are totally dynamic and respond to your hands like no other.but u must spend a good 300 on mods but u can pick them up for under 500$.so as a amp abuser for decades i highly suggest anyone get a legacy if your a thrasher just get a tinny high gain toneless amp=engl jvm 6505 and damage your ears forever

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#41 Post by speed70 » Fri May 03, 2019 2:25 pm

I have to say i love seeing these board posts that ramble about the things that people know and prefer when someone asks a simple question, however i want to first compliment the people who tried to answer the guys question. What i find as a musician (real musician) is to find YOUR own way and so many of us ask a friend or get an opinion before we buy but some of you guys should stay away from the Legacy pages unless you just going to say your personal experiences with it not about your personal favorite amp it about a simple question from another musician, if you have heard one and not owned it don't comment ..
I also appreciate that we all have some thought or opinion about Vai and what we think but for the most part the man is is very simple person to deal with but a complex player who finds what he likes to get his sound, now this brings up all of these Marshall / Legacy sound which is so far wrong because if it was the case then why asked when he had a show what amp he wanted between a Marshall JCM series and Orange he took the MK III .. Not everything is as easy as some of you want it to be , I mean seriously do any of you see who Vai's guitar tech is? There is nothing simple about that man and we don't know if he has a bag of tubes he takes on the road with them and changes them for a show and then puts back the factory setup when the show is over unless its Vai's personal amps. I also see this crap about can't get Vai's sound unless you have a Fractal Unit but did all of you forget the G-System? T.C electronics and Ibanez distortion and it didn't matter if it was Carvin X100B or a Bogner , also that Eventide was a huge part of his sound for many years , I didn't know Eventide joined Fractal..
Now before the assholes start writing some nasty replay my personal experience was a Vinny Vincent Laney, the a Favorite choice i wish was still available was my Crate Blue Voodoo 120, Soldano 50w , and i have played the Mark series of Mesa but i only use them for different types of music but when the Carvin VL100 came out I bought it and still have it as my main rig to date and I DO use a distortion Pedal on my Clean channel so I can control the sound I want and i can play Mudvayne, Sevendust, Dream Theater to Queensryche on my Legacy. Now I have been playing with the tubes lately trying to get a better channel 2 sound from it even if it was close to my Crate Blue Voodoo sound i would be happy but i don't feel i have the control on that channel yet from the factory. I will keep playing and playing with tubes looking for a better sound with my Distortion side of my VL100 because I will always have .. For the everyday guitar player I write do what feels best for you to have control of your sound if it means a Fractal or another unit cool , if its pedals cool do what you feel is best for you not anyone else not everyone wants to have the Metallica sound with a Rectifier ..
Last but not least those of you who honestly know and listened to the Vai sounds from the beginning he has played a little of everything and created something he has control and comfort with and after all the hours and bands he can instant Vai his sound but only he knows what he does in the end because you listen to him with pedals he can be just as instant , I mean if it was just that easy to be Vai just buy the programmable Waza Craft amp and buy the Legacy card and play like a pro everytime...

Keep Rocking :headbang and Trying whats best for you :guitar !!!!!

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Re: Carvin Legacy VL100

#42 Post by wolfight » Sun May 05, 2019 6:07 am

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