Fluency of Scales When Playing Quickly and with Articulation

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Now when I say playing fast, I don't mean shredding up and down scales, and I don't mean shredding at all alternate picking really fast. Fast playing meaning intricately and weird things like Steve does (I don't play LIKE Steve, but Steve's very strange and wierd playing influences me to do that kind of thing in my own way). But the better I get at playing, the harder it is to easily remember where the scales on the fretboard are. If I'm playing in Lydian and feel like sliding down, it's hard for me to try to remember exactly where the next notes are that I can use to make the melody I am trying to build come out. Is there any method to use to remember the scales without thinking too hard, thinking about scales when trying to make something build and speak is really annoying lol. I can definitely find my own way, in just wondering if any of you have a way.

Edit- one of the methods I have always used before I even knew scales existed was going by ear. Now, when I go by ear, it's the easiest thing to do, I see the fretboard and know what each note will sound like when I play it, so I can easily make melody. But it's "safe" it's not interesting, or hard at all it's really easy (I guess it's a form of perfect pitch). I get sick if playing such normal things because the music I hear I my head (which is ridiculously strange and emotional) is anything but normal. The articulation I'm looking for needs absolute fluency of scales to complete and I just can't seem to do it. Maybe it's a mental block, but playing guitar for six hours every day just further roots into my mind how hard it will be to find my own way. I'm sick of playing the same things that have no meaning.
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Best way is thinking about the 11 intervals instead of about the 12 notes.
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+1 to thinking in intervals. Steve Vai does a lot of interval type things. For example there is a 5ths lick he uses fairly often.

I want to make a couple points
1) Vai has spent hours composing and working out new ideas and then memorizing them and perfecting them. Most of the amazing licks you hear are not out of the blue. He has learned them before.

2) It sounds like you may want to learn a little bit about music theory. You hear what you want, but you don't know how to get them. learning what you are hearing may help. Start with intervals, learn what they are and learn to identify them by ear.

3) Be persistent. You will learn how to do it eventually.
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