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Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:36 pm
by funnyguy12
Hello. Im playing lotus feet for my senior recital this tuesday but need some help with the ending. Since my jem doesnt have the sustainer i cant really pull off the ending. The backing track i am using has the ending where the strings are playing for about 33 secs total. Which should give me enough time to do the sustainer part, but like i said, no sustainer. What should i do? That's a whole 33 secs i could be doing something. But what? Can i just ad lib it, or just stand in confusion as the strings fade out? Any ideas on what i could end with would be great.

Thanks

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:13 pm
by Jeries
option 1. make something up
option 2. cut it out
option 3. play another song
keep in mind- the only people that enjoy 20 min long guitar solos are guitarist who play 20 min guitar solos, so keep in mind who your audience is.

Maybe something like Liberty would be better people have no attention span especially when theres no singing (except for the people like us that is why we're all here)

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:45 pm
by rub_800
I think playing with the feedback and little could be a good option ... or just improvise a little at the ending lowering your volume little by little

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:48 am
by funnyguy12
Jeries wrote:option 1. make something up
option 2. cut it out
option 3. play another song
keep in mind- the only people that enjoy 20 min long guitar solos are guitarist who play 20 min guitar solos, so keep in mind who your audience is.

Maybe something like Liberty would be better people have no attention span especially when theres no singing (except for the people like us that is why we're all here)
well im only allowed to play one song, so Liberty is out of the question. Im gonna try messing with feedback like the guy above me said.

thanks for the replies.

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:09 am
by Jeries
well practice THAT particularly in sound check-

a lot of things come into play with feedback- your distance from the amp, the size of the room- and sometimes feedback wont work like you want it to.

i'd rather you make something up solo wise than stand up there holding notes out that arent making sounds- a sustainer is nothing like natural feedback-

in fact using a sustainer live to me is just as different as messing with feedback you get different sounds and things out of the instrument depending on the room and other stuff.

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:31 pm
by Stephen Brown
If it's the section I'm thinking about it's just pure volume (maybe wrong).

The bar is pressed into moosh & the power of the amp is so loud that it carries the signal through the bar coming up, as the finger is passing over frets.

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:43 am
by Jeries
FRETPICK wrote:The bar is pressed into moosh & the power of the amp is so loud that it carries the signal through the bar coming up, as the finger is passing over frets.
thats all 100% sustainer- really hard to do actually to move up and whammy bar up at the same time trying to keep the same pitch

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:01 am
by Breeder
please...time? in minutes and seconds...I am not sure to what are you referring

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:36 pm
by Stephen Brown
Breeder wrote:please...time? in minutes and seconds...I am not sure to what are you referring
At 6:10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=eBZ6lRZRXTk&gl=US

Jeries is correct.

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:54 pm
by Breeder
to be honest it seems doable without the sustainer...of course it will not sound exactly the same but I am sure you can come up with "sustainless" version of it that will have similar effect (plus I would lower my volume on a guitar a bit...and back of on gain a bit)

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:09 pm
by Stephen Brown
Breeder wrote:to be honest it seems doable without the sustainer.
It is, I've done it but it's very hard.

Video version is different from the cd.

Re: Playing the end of Lotus Feet.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:18 am
by Ultraviolet
(perhaps you can buy a sustainer pedal?)

Try your best if that's what you want to play.

(You would have been better off playing your own material I think)
playing someone else's stuff in front of people doesn't do you any justice,...but good luck anyways. I like that song VERY much




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