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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:42 pm
by burnt out
Breeder wrote:
burnt out wrote:Wow imagine that. Another idiotic thread. :roll:
wow another guy who actually doesn't read the thread...if you would care to find out what Segovia scales are you would not answer so balantly
I wasn't being critical of Segovia or his scales. :lol:

My point is that all scale patterns should be explored and mixed and matched so that you learn that you can go anywhere. There's lots of different routes you can take to get to the same place. It's about learning your options, not picking a particular preference in terms of patterns of x amount of notes per string right out of the gate. I was getting the impression from this thread the 2 notes per string wasn't as good as three and that 4 was better than 3 and so what's next? 5 is better than 4,blah blah blah. It was starting to remind me of a more is more penis measuring contest again which goes on too much around here lately. It's not about being the most technical or the bestest fastest strongest yoda yoda yoda. It's about knowing your options and knowing them well so that you can express yourself. It's just like words. You want to be able to express yourself and that doesn't just mean learning only all of the biggest words only.

:P

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:24 pm
by spanishphrygian
Actually, the thought did just cross my mind: Maybe five notes per string is even better! Yet I could find a way too use all ten fingers, and my third leg as well. I suppose I cannot do the third leg thing on stage anymore though.

Now, back to the the point is that I do not understand the reason for the Segovian Scales. The only thing that I could imagine is that I could use the format while barring with my index finger or something.

Of course all options should be used, but why do not Classical Guitar teachers teach four notes per string.

Yeah Segovia is great, and my teacher studied from him. My teacher said to render as many fingerings every time I played a melodic line or a scale.

Except when I was jumping through the hoops with the Segovian and Shearer scales. What I am saying here is that he meant render as many three note posibilities as I can per single line sequence of notes.

Why? I think that one should learn four notes per string as early as they can like a violinist. Then you can do almost everything, play the whole range of the guitar more effeciantly and so on and so forth.

I am also getting frustrated that all of these classical, flamenco, and Jazz fingerstyle transcribtions, and shoot most rock are all geared around three notes per string.

Why can't I finger like Vai on a Classical Guitar Sonata, or a Paco De Lucia Tango, or a Joe Pass vamp? Of course I can and you can do darn it!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:55 pm
by lydian2000
yes, exactly. Blue with a pinch of salt. oh and she remembered to add onions, and they didn't like it the first time. 450 large cotton fields should do the trick though..you know, that extra "dan brown moment" touch.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:16 pm
by Breeder
lydian2000 wrote:yes, exactly. Blue with a pinch of salt. oh and she remembered to add onions, and they didn't like it the first time. 450 large cotton fields should do the trick though..you know, that extra "dan brown moment" touch.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:23 pm
by joebot
I still have no clue what your on about, part of me really wants to know and another part of me really wants to run away screaming.

arrrrrrrrgh.

There is just too much to learn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I would invoke that Guy from deep impact speech about river boat pilots in the time of mark twain if I could be bothered.

Re: Segovia what is the point?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:43 pm
by Dyens
Segovia scales are just supposed to work on your shifting. That's why they cover so much of the fret board and move up some strings on the ascent and down different strings on the descent. They are not boxes to play with when you solo or anything like that. Just a way to practice technique.

Re: Segovia what is the point?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:08 pm
by Stephen Brown

Re: Segovia what is the point?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:17 am
by Aaron-chan
Basically, its used to teach a classical guitarist to shift across the fretboard smoothly. With no string noise and the notes should be completely connected. also the sound of shifting positions should not be noticed by the listener. its more for physhical issues not like scale boxes Other classical guitar composers/teachers use this in their own scale versions. Such as Carlevaro, Savio and others

Prof. Leone

Re: Segovia what is the point?

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:50 pm
by aaronm
I couldnt see the point of any scales at first but the more you practice them the better they sound what ever they are ,scales are the root of what you play on any instrument ...sooo they are most important even chords are made up of scales