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Michael Landau

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:22 pm
by IbanezRules
Any Vai nuts listening to Mike Landau in here?
IMO, he IS the king of tone.
Sorry Steve! :oops:

I mean just listen to him here playing "I'm Buzzed":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3l7UZc2bJI

But what the hell, the guy is playing a Suhr strat, and Custom Audio Amp - what do you expect...

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:55 pm
by Breeder
IbanezRules wrote:strat

beware of BBB :lol:

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:38 am
by IbanezRules
BBB?

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:07 am
by Breeder
http://www.vai.com/messageboard/memberl ... ofile&u=85" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.vai.com/messageboard/viewtop ... =2&t=24384" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol: :lol:

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:21 am
by lydian2000
Breeder wrote:
IbanezRules wrote:strat

beware of BBB :lol:
ooh yes you've pronounced the forbidden word!

you're now officially in trouble.

:lol:

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:20 pm
by IbanezRules
That guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

They stay in tune as long as you're not dive-bombing.
The reason why they use those bridges is because they're sounding
way better than the Floyd Rose, which, IMO fucks up your tone, especially
on the clean channel.

And looks? Well, that's a subjective thing. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
I can agree that it's a bitch that the fretboard has only 21 frets.

I like Ibanez too, but only the Jazz models these days, LOL :D
And the Tubescreamer............... :headbang

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:30 am
by Big Bad Bill
IbanezRules wrote:That guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
Oh, Ok.
IbanezRules wrote:They stay in tune as long as you're not dive-bombing.
Hellooo? Steve Vai forum-lots of dive bombing and whammy bar pitching going on here on here! You should save this for the Hank Marvin website :wink:
IbanezRules wrote:The reason why they use those bridges is because they're sounding
way better than the Floyd Rose, which, IMO fucks up your tone, especially
on the clean channel.
So Steve's tone is 'fucked up'? Do you think he'd continue using a Floyd if it compromised his tone? I'd suggest that the type of amp and the settings you have dialled up are far more significant than the type of metal the bridge is made of.
IbanezRules wrote:I can agree that it's a bitch that the fretboard has only 21 frets.
So you now agree with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about? You've just contradicted your first statement! Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:29 am
by IbanezRules
Big Bad Bill wrote: So Steve's tone is 'fucked up'? Do you think he'd continue using a Floyd if it compromised his tone? I'd suggest that the type of amp and the settings you have dialled up are far more significant than the type of metal the bridge is made of.
I did not say that, however, his clean tone could be better in my opinion. It's quite weak, and this is partly due to the Floyd Rose, and partly the EVO pickups.
Big Bad Bill wrote: So you now agree with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about? You've just contradicted your first statement! Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
Well, you can't get everything with a guitar. I rather have a badass tone, than 24 frets or whatever the JEM has.
Sorry, but this is absolutely no disrespect to Steve, I think he is brilliant. But I just think his music would lift to a higher level if he played better guitars.


This is what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3l7UZc2bJI

Tone is a subjective thing, but ask any guitarist, which tone is better.
Remember, we are talking TONE, not playing.


Oh, by the way. The problem with the whammy bar is easy to solve. There is something called
Sperzel tuners, if you've ever heard of them.

Hope you are not getting this the wrong way, I'm, at least, just amused with this debate.

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:43 am
by Big Bad Bill
IbanezRules wrote:Oh, by the way. The problem with the whammy bar is easy to solve. There is something called
Sperzel tuners, if you've ever heard of them.
You mean for a Strat? Sperzels only work if the tuning instability is associated with the that end of the guitar (binding in the string slots, loose machineheads). I believe that the traditional Strat bridge problem is mainly due to them not returning to the 'zero point'.
IbanezRules wrote:Hope you are not getting this the wrong way, I'm, at least, just amused with this debate.
No, no, debate is good and you're doing a good job.
IbanezRules wrote:I did not say that,
Implied it perhaps? (I'm just trying to get you in trouble :wink: )
IbanezRules wrote:however, his clean tone could be better in my opinion. It's quite weak, and this is partly due to the Floyd Rose, and partly the EVO pickups.
The clean tone for 'Sisters' is rich and full and the clean as is the clean break in 'Blue Powder'. His distorted tone is really fat I think-listen to 'Touching Tongues'-you could virtually slice his tone up with a knife, butter it and eat it between two slices of bread!

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:11 am
by Breeder
Big Bad Bill wrote:The clean tone for 'Sisters' is rich and full and the clean as is the clean break in 'Blue Powder'. His distorted tone is really fat I think-listen to 'Touching Tongues'-you could virtually slice his tone up with a knife, butter it and eat it between two slices of bread!
Tone on sisters you hear is what comes from your speakers..and where does that come from ? CD!!

CD comes from Steve`s studio...and I bet Steve ain`t just recording and throwing that in sequencer and burning right away :P :P ...what about mixing, mastering etc...

never take studio recording as a reference point for judging tone



and for the 1000000th time...tone is in the ear of beholder, some people want certain kind of sound which may sound terrible to others but to their ears it is bliss and inspiration!

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:14 am
by lydian2000
Big Bad Bill wrote:The clean tone for 'Sisters' is rich and full and the clean as is the clean break in 'Blue Powder'.
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I couldn't agree more, especially for blue powder, one may not like his tone but if this tone is "weak" then I don't know what a rich tone is.

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now I personally don't like the clean sound of EVOs they sound bleak to me, but of all the adjectives I could think of to describe Steve's tone, "weak" is definitely not in my book.


:peace

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:02 am
by Desert_Runner
I'm loving the Michael Landau videos.

I'm not a massive fan of Steve's clean sound, though I think it varies from album to album.
Big Bad Bill wrote:The clean tone for 'Sisters' is rich and full and the clean as is the clean break in 'Blue Powder'. His distorted tone is really fat I think-listen to 'Touching Tongues'-you could virtually slice his tone up with a knife, butter it and eat it between two slices of bread!
That made me laugh. And it made me hungry.

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:47 pm
by Melodic Dreamer
Landau is probably my favorite player. It's nothing to do with speed or tricks, I just love his feel and his tone.
The man is awesome!

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:48 pm
by IbanezRules
Melodic Dreamer wrote:Landau is probably my favorite player. It's nothing to do with speed or tricks, I just love his feel and his tone.
The man is awesome!
Word.
Me too, I really dig Carl Verheyen and Allen Hinds, but I think Landau is
my fav. 6 years ago Steve (Vai) would've been my favorite, but not anymore.

Re: Michael Landau

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:38 pm
by Melodic Dreamer
IbanezRules wrote:
Melodic Dreamer wrote:Landau is probably my favorite player. It's nothing to do with speed or tricks, I just love his feel and his tone.
The man is awesome!
Word.
Me too, I really dig Carl Verheyen and Allen Hinds, but I think Landau is
my fav. 6 years ago Steve (Vai) would've been my favorite, but not anymore.
Verheyen is awesome. I've been meaning to get his new album. I hear it's awesome. He is a lot like Eric Johnson with a bit more Country influence.

Satch , Vai, Petrucci and those guys are great. I think I truly burnt myself out on them. I was always listening to them growing up. I went through a Huge Rock Fusion phase, then straight ahead into Jazz Fusion. Started with Garsed and Howe then into Holsworth and Henderson, Stern, Methany and so on.

Hinds is awesome. It's like Holdsworth and R.Ford had a child. lol
Awe Robben Ford... now there is the man! I love the few clips of Mike and Robben playing together. Landau has a touch thing going on. I have learned a few of his songs and a bunch of his licks. I have incorporated his playing into my own. I love it.

Jeff Beck is another player I love.