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Whitesnake- Slip of the Tongue Question

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:28 pm
by guitarman13
As I understand, Adrian Vandenberg wrote the guitar parts for the Slip of the Tongue album, but he didn't write the solos did he? Because the solos sound like crazy Vai style solos.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:30 pm
by RAI
The general guitar parts were already written, and rough guitars already recorded when Steve came onboard.
I'm sure Steve followed the riffs as written (fairly close), and had a feast with the solos and fills...

But Steve recorded it all.
None of Adrian's playing made it to the record.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:51 am
by Bryceybhoy
Awesome album. Some of Steve's best work.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:12 am
by Zebula77
It's easy to hear that Steve had full control of his parts tho, since they're all over the album lol.

A good thing imo. :wink:

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:49 am
by Zeds.Ded
'kittens got claws' and 'fool for your loving' are prime examples of songs were you can really hear Steves signature sound colour the song so well. this era (and the David lee Roth era) was one of my favorite era's in Steves music career. i just love listening closely to all those songs, and hearing Steves tiny nuances that make him so individual, the licks he would throw into the rythm sections could always put a smile on my face because there was always a particular sound or emotion he was trying to make you feel with those licks (thats my perception anyway) yet he could make it sound so fluent and improvised, thats what makes Steve so outstanding. back then there were not many guitarists that could come near to him, and still today he continues to push the boundries of music and the guitar. a true legend! :)

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:11 am
by Bryceybhoy
Zeds.Ded wrote:'kittens got claws' and 'fool for your loving' are prime examples of songs were you can really hear Steves signature sound colour the song so well. this era (and the David lee Roth era) was one of my favorite era's in Steves music career. i just love listening closely to all those songs, and hearing Steves tiny nuances that make him so individual, the licks he would throw into the rythm sections could always put a smile on my face because there was always a particular sound or emotion he was trying to make you feel with those licks (thats my perception anyway) yet he could make it sound so fluent and improvised, thats what makes Steve so outstanding. back then there were not many guitarists that could come near to him, and still today he continues to push the boundries of music and the guitar. a true legend! :)
Well put. However, Coverdale has said that he did not like all the individual sVai widdly bits in many of the songs.

Mind you, I have one of his solo albums....so he is clearly a bit deaf. It's horrific.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:50 am
by Zeds.Ded
i was not aware David though like that. maybe he though Steve was steeling the limelight ;)

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:17 pm
by ty2k
I LOVE the solo to the song Slip Of the Tongue! That solo is classic Vai. To me,the song is very Whitesnake and the solo is very Vai. :twisted:

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:30 pm
by guyver_dio
maybe coverdale worried steve was overpopulating the airspace in the music, like adding to much to the basic structure. He certainly wouldn't have argued when they were released for sure lol.

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:52 am
by jagoda
What I know about Whitesnake is that their music is blues based. Go back to their early stuff and you'll see. Maybe that's the reason DC didn't like Steve's individual parts. Besides, DC also said it got to loud. The music I mean.

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:23 am
by 777lovein
jes with david lee and david coverdale was the best time of vai. :cry: that´s over

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:27 am
by Zebula77
Well, I think he still reinvents himself and he's still a guitar god.

I liked his sound better back in those days, tho. It was crisper and sparkier. More bridge-pickup-y. Now I think he uses the neck pickup a little too much and his sound is maybe a little mushy.

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:09 am
by Zongadude
RAI wrote:The general guitar parts were already written, and rough guitars already recorded when Steve came onboard.
I'm sure Steve followed the riffs as written (fairly close), and had a feast with the solos and fills...

But Steve recorded it all.
None of Adrian's playing made it to the record.
That's correct.
Although I remember reading that the song "Slip of the tongue" got into heavy rewriting/rearranging by Steve, though. That's the exception I guess.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:08 am
by Masi
I went to my "archives" on this one. Guitar World Jan 1990 has Vai saying this:
"It was drums and bass and scrap vocals for finished rock songs, and what he (Coverdale) wanted was for me to do anything I wanted-complete carte blanche to do anything I dared imagine."

He was discussing how Coverdale first played the tracks, but I'm sure Vai heard Vandenberg's parts later on...I remember reading that, for example the "Sailing Ships" intro was just as Adrian had written it (for his mom)...