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Where did Steve get the melody For the Love of God??

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:25 pm
by Yozhik
I think its very close to that theme music from the seventies Kung Fu starring David Carradine.

Steve grew up around that time and if you listen its almost identical.


Give it a listen and let me know what you guys think?


Yozhik

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:28 pm
by Zeds.Ded
i really doubt the inspiration for one of the most beautiful songs ever written came from a seventies Kung Fu movie.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:47 pm
by Splish
He heard the melody in his head. In London on Saturday, he took time to explain in great detail inspiration and how he worked with it; Steve said he could feel when he was going to get inspired, and when he did, he'd get a recording device (be that a tape recorder, manuscript paper, whatever) and write his inspired melody down.

FTLOG was one of these inspirations. He found the melody within himself and played chords on the backing to it, until he found the ones that fit. He did a very moving rendition where he sang the melody and played the chords on FLO at LGS on saturday. I was lucky enough to be near the front due to a retard security guy, who I love :D

Anyway, hope that helped :)

Splish

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:48 pm
by Leanne_777
^^^^ It would be fun to believe. I like David Caradine, ever since I heard he been arrested for playing piano naked in someone's house. I forget the name of the charge they charged him with but it was funny.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:48 pm
by seljer
woah
http://www.tv-timewarp.co.uk/midi_files ... u_1972.mid
That was a bit of a suprise.

though I doubt theres any direct inspiration, maybe one of those subconscious things when you end up quoting bits of music that you've once heard without even realizing it (or even knowing the original source of it)

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:51 pm
by Splish
That sounds rediculously like it... Who'd of thought it lol!

Steve's is better though lol :wink:

Splish

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:03 pm
by Yozhik
seljer wrote:woah


though I doubt theres any direct inspiration, maybe one of those subconscious things when you end up quoting bits of music that you've once heard without even realizing it (or even knowing the original source of it)

seljer,

Yes that was what I said "whoah" when i compared the both on youtube. If you search for FTLOG and kung fu its suprising.

Steve grew up in N.Y. and that show was very, very, popular so he would have heard it.

Thanks for the midi link though.


Yozhik

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:04 pm
by SPQR
Splish wrote:That sounds rediculously like it... Who'd of thought it lol!

Steve's is better though lol :wink:

Splish
yea kool coincidence but steve's is from his head lol

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:06 pm
by Yozhik
Zeds.Ded wrote:i really doubt the inspiration for one of the most beautiful songs ever written came from a seventies Kung Fu movie.


Zed.Ded,

Listen to seljer's midi link which he was kind enough to post.

You will be suprised.

Does anyone know about the writing credits FTLOG and did Steve say he wrote and produced the whole thing as he usually does?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:09 pm
by Yozhik
Leanne_777 wrote:^^^^ It would be fun to believe. I like David Caradine, ever since I heard he been arrested for playing piano naked in someone's house. I forget the name of the charge they charged him with but it was funny.


Leanne_777,

I had forgotten that whole ordeal! What was that deal all about? Didn't he get cut up with the glass and other things?

:)

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:11 pm
by Yozhik
fortheloveofgod wrote:
Splish wrote:That sounds rediculously like it... Who'd of thought it lol!

Steve's is better though lol :wink:

Splish
yea kool coincidence but steve's is from his head lol


Yes of course there is no doubt about Steve's amazing talent in his version.

But I wonder if he paid royalties or bought the tune rights?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:19 pm
by slash89
I highly doubt that :roll: It says nothing about it in the Passion and Warfare booklet. Just because someone is playing the same scale over the same chords doesn't make it a copyright issue :wink: This is crazy, if you don't mind me saying...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:25 pm
by Yozhik
slash89 wrote:I highly doubt that :roll: It says nothing about it in the Passion and Warfare booklet. Just because someone is playing the same scale over the same chords doesn't make it a copyright issue :wink: This is crazy, if you don't mind me saying...


slash89,

I don’t mind if you think its crazy but the comparison is clear. I just noticed it.

If you listen to the more studio arranged version from the original show it’s even more like it.

Call me crazy but I hear what I hear.


I am not trying to bash Steve BTW the guy is brilliant.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:29 pm
by seljer
There are similarities but they're IMO they're coincidental more than anything else

and you need more than a chord and 5 notes to violate the violate the authorship rights of a song

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:37 pm
by SPQR
seljer wrote:There are similarities but they're IMO they're coincidental more than anything else

and you need more than a chord and 5 notes to violate the violate the authorship rights of a song
very true indeed seljer, i think its a complete coincidence, and from what i gathered Steve is an honest upfront guy he would have mentioned something of the sort either in a publication or to evo holders or something .