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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:10 am 
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To me... Erotic Cakes is the next Passion and Warfare. They have the same impact on me as a player.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:03 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:36 am 
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Bryceybhoy wrote:
The appeal goes out of the door for me, then. When I hear Steve, or Nuno, or Kotzen, or Satriani, I can hear that guitarist's signature sound so easily - but I don't hear it with Guthrie. Just my two cents.


I knew Guthrie from teaching and QA videos, like, well, nearly everybody, videos which I loved, too : inspiring, informed and witty. Frizzly bearded funny guitar player with a brit accent? I'm in.

I did not really know his music nor cared that much to be exposed to it, but then I heard some of the Aristocrat's Culture Clash. He really does have a thing, and it shows even when he's not playing a zillion notes a second, something vivid and playful that did remind me of early Vai before I saw the interview references. He of course went straight into my favourite guitar players (granted, there are a few, but still).

That said, it's been a few years and I haven't listened to Erotic Cakes yet, so maybe he just matured.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:03 pm 
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Finally these two great influences of mine shall be performing AND teaching together for the very first time!!!

http://www.vaiacademy.com/


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:42 am 
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Some official words from Steve on Guthrie's playing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZPKXvWtHY


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:52 am 
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I wish I'd seen this thread when it was active, a couple of years ago! I created an account mainly to write a couple of responses to people who might end up here in the future - and on a related note, huge thanks to LordoftheStrings for the links!

So, to all the people who think Guthrie doesn't have a signature, I must urge you to consider two points:
1. Most people judge a signature by the techniques that the guitarist most often uses (and possibly has pioneered), and to an extent the tones. What's actually deeper is the touch-and-feel of the guitarist in question - how he physically treats the strings, with both hands. A perfect example for this would be Jeff Beck - he'll play two notes and you'll know it's him, and not because of technique. With Guthrie, you cannot judge via the standard techniques, because he's exceptionally good at all of them - if you have the ears of a guitarist, you should be able to hear his own higher-layered technical improvisations, but for that you need a lot of samples, which brings me to the second point:
2. You should realise that Guthrie isn't particularly interested in recording dozens of studio albums, and that's the hint that he isn't as much of a studio musician as he is a live one - watch his improvs, jams, tutorials, rig demos, interviews, etc. and you'll start noticing a few patterns in his style and treatment of music. Once you start getting in the groove, I'd recommend listening to both The Aristocrats albums that are out (at the time of this writing), multiple times, and then watching them live - be it on YouTube or live (I'm not in a continent where musicians usually perform, so I don't really have an option, but if you can catch them - go!). Hopefully, by then you'll have developed the ear to pick up tiny nuances that are nevertheless strong and have depth, and also have had a rather vast exposure to his signatures.

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If you've heard Erotic Cakes and remember Fives, hear this rendition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uPJ1Qa3xC8 where he plays along with Tal Wilkenfeld.

Here are two looper jams that are 100% improv and bloody kick-ass:
Soulful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjVQFSwxVIc
Funky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwJX3iW6Jw

This is The Aristocrats playing Flatlands live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0cVyPExfIY, a ballad, slowed down and with beautiful dynamics throughout the piece by all three.

If you want to see them be the Monty Pythons of music, here's the pig and chicken spank (bootleg, though): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcBDx1zFXw

And lastly, here's a really spunky, fun tune where they put in humour effortlessly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc5LkSc7DvU

If after all this you still feel Mr. Govan is more of a "YouTube artist", then I'm afraid you've been successfully capitalised by what sells (G3 and shit). Try watching these videos by YouTube artists (they don't really exist anywhere else) and tell me if your commercial Sony BMG albums are better:

Muris Varajic - Silent Inner Cry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxoCYuS5ttY
Tom Quayle - Giant Steps Improv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU37RyrVfok
Tom/Andy/Martin/Rick - Suhr Mega Jam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNY9gJtNd6s (Mainly Tom Quayle and Martin Miller)
Alex Hutchings and Jack Thammarat - Drivin' Blues jam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syb7A3k3UL8


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:55 am 
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Some more compliments from Vai on Govan in a Guitar Player Magazine interview!

http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/101 ... camp/27401

"Then, we have Guthrie Govan, who is obviously an all-star with incredible chops and a phenomenal ear."

So glad to finally hear what he thinks of GG's musicianship. I can't wait to see these two play together!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:28 pm 
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Yes!!! Please tell me someone caught this on video?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:58 am 
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LordoftheStrings wrote:
Some official words from Steve on Guthrie's playing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZPKXvWtHY


I love his shirt! Lush Life is such a great jazz album. I've gotta go listen to some John Coltrane now! :ugeek:


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