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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:42 pm 
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hey guys. For a very hi gain fan (except for when I practice I play clean) which pickups would you reccomend. The dimarzio evo 2 bridge ore paf pro bridge. ? I'm looking for a harmonically rich bridge, that can scream, but be lowered down and warm when cleaner. I want the one that when the volume knob is rolled down, it just reduces gain like on jems. The One that is morewarm, versatile, and not as shrill as EVOs through a solid state. Which ones? Evo 2 or paf pro?


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:54 pm 
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PAF PRO would be my choice for what you have discribed Kyle ,..there a nice pick up ,..if im not mistaken i think joe satch uses a paf pro in one of his guitars ,..I love joes sound,... :guitar


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:43 am 
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kyle,go on the dimarzio forum and ask the same question,you will get a much better answer,the guys there really know there stuff.
the evo2 and the paf pro are totally different,fwiw i have used both although currently only use a paf pro in the neck position in one of my guitars the paf pro does sound a bit weak in the bridge and if you are looking for hi(ish) output i would go with the evo2.


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:16 am 
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I'd go with EVO2

if you have a guitar with a basswood body i highly recommend the EVO2

but get a good amp before anything

with a good amp the EVOs would prob be best for high gain (in the right hands)


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:57 pm 
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what about a Fred,they are apparently responsive to rolling the volume pot and fit the requirements you mentioned and are a design based on the paf pro.


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:02 pm 
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dude, I cant just buy a new amp. Lol I'm changing the scrappy infinities to dimarzios, getting the sustainer in (there was a broken toggle so the sustainer still isn't in the guitar) a vox satchirator and then a new amp. I don't have a grand for a legacy, or three for a mesa. Those are the only two amps I am considering. One will take maybe six months, the other 2 years. Ill pimp my guitar first so ihave something stage worthy, then amp second. Regarding the pickup, the evo 2 does seem better. I love a warm high output. My modeling amp will do good for rehearsals and practice. The VYPYR actually sounds better than some tube amps. Just not my cup of tea. It there was a legacy mesa hybrid, I would sell my soul for it ;) maybe for a graduation present ill get a Carvin.
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I'd go with EVO2

if you have a guitar with a basswood body i highly recommend the EVO2

but get a good amp before anything

with a good amp the EVOs would prob be best for high gain (in the right hands)


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:55 pm 
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if you're putting it with a sustainer (you didnt mention that thats very important)
get an EVO2
i wouldn't recommend anything else w sustainer...

also- you can buy a used carvin x100b for $200-300
you can get a used legacy for $400-500

keep an eye out two in the last few months i've bought THREE mesa boogie rectifiers for $500 (two of the 3 with a cab...shhhh dont tell anyone)

so there's steals out on craigslists
i've literally bought a single rec, dual rec and triple rec for about $500 each in the last 6 months

and btw the INF pickups are made in the usa dimarzio pickups

i still have the stock INF middle pickup in my evo2 sustainer guitar

you don't need a sustainer system before a real amp...
you don't even need a distortion/od pedal before a real amp

a saturator into something solid state is useless


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:24 pm 
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the paf pro dosent sound weak in the bridge at all ,... the fred is also good ,..so is the evo but.
saying the PAF pro sounds weak in the bridge is obsurd,..perhaps you should check your wiring paul.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:47 pm 
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the PAF is much weaker than the evo2
and the FRED is the weakest of all of them and has the least sustain


do what i did-
flo has an evo2 in the bridge with the sustainer

so should you

end of story
the end


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:45 am 
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you would have to say that a Fred would be an upgrade from an inf4 though.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:43 pm 
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absolutely cook ,..I have listened to joe satch next to steve vai dozens of times satch uses the paf and the fred ,..now I think joes tone is nicer than steves ,..I know it comes down to personal preference and you what you love the best ,I dont think the evo is better just different,..
and I dont think the paf is weak at all ,..sorry just my opinoin.
My hamer is mahogony it had a semour duncan invader in it ,..to harsh with the hard wood ,..so I put a paf pro in it now its a softer darker sound just love it ,..that guitar is in the shop getting a rewire at the mo,....


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:15 pm 
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i would recommend the at-1,my favourite dimarzio and i`ve used lots of them at one time or another.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:17 am 
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I agree with Jeries. There really isn't much point spending all that money on pick ups if you just waited a little more, saved a little more, and got yourself a proper amp.

I've heard some 'premium' guitars played through sub-standard amps and it's not much to write home about.

But if you can't afford an amp, fair enough. Get it on finance!


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:07 pm 
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i have a js1000 with a FRED

its weak
no sustain

good sound.. but no sustain

would prob sound like crap w sustainer


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:22 pm 
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good sound no sustain,..you know this is just chatter really isnt it ,.there are ways to add sustain to any guitar ,regardless of what pick up you have,..still its I suppose all about what you like really ,..

I play a flemenco guitar most of the time it was hand crafted in spain and a very beautiful guitar I dont need amps pick ups or any of that expensive shit ,..though my flemenco guitar was very expensive all I need to do is put good strings on it from time to time,...and it sounds beautiful by its self dont need a fucking band just me,..its great,..!!!!


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