Engl screamer or Peavey 5150 ?

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Engl screamer or Peavey 5150 ?

#1 Post by ppvai » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:31 pm

hey!
how is it going

well, now im searching for a tube amp,
and for my budget, this are the amps that i like most
i play since clasic clean to heavy stuff.
i would like to have a good clean, a full on gain chanel amp
just if i need it. but the most important...THE TONE

if you guys had some experience with both or one of these amps
let me know your opinions!

thanx!

pd: other sugestions are welcome :)

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#2 Post by ppvai » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:33 pm

c´mon anyone?¿ :?

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#3 Post by bennyvx78 » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:12 pm

I don't know how a Engl sounds like, but I got a
Peavey 5150 EvH combo and im lovin' that damm amp.
its an great piece of equipment that can sound heavy and
loud, with some decent distortion.

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#4 Post by GuitarBizarre » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:58 pm

I'm personally much more of an Engl fan than 5150.

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#5 Post by DiMarzio » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:14 pm

I own an ENGL Savage, but i dont know how it compares to the ENGL screamer.. But i belive i would pick ENGL because it has never dissapointed me!

Besides ENGL has some very nice clean tones as well as being able to have a very heavy sound to them!

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#6 Post by j.arledge » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:44 pm

engl , better cleans good gain. i havn't played an engl but heard them in action and yeah they are much better IMO then the 5150

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#7 Post by ppvai » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:04 pm

hey thank you so much for the replies! :)
i though anyone would answer :?

so thanks,
well, i know that the engl its amazing
but i doubt that the gain in the screamer
is enough, for some heavy riffing like
dream theater, adagio etc.

im into the little heavy progressive,
and i would love to have a Good gain.
that i know that the 5150 has, but.
i think the engl has a better tone :?
i dont know really, beacuse i´ve never
test any of the two.
but i´ve seen some clips.

so im in a "dilema" between both

BUT i can recive some sugestions
or whatever you want to say, its welcome :)

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#8 Post by Lo Lo » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:36 pm

I have a Visual Sound Workhorse Stallion tube amp. It has GREAT tone and the most beautiful clean sound I've ever heard. I use a Jekll and Hyde overdrive/distortion pedal for really warm lust sounding distortion. These things are all about tone, tone, tone!

If you are looking for a single or dual 12 tube combo I'd suggest taking a look at the Workhorse tube amps.

If you are looking for a stack amp I'd look at the Cornford amps. I played on the Richie Kotzen model and it was also a tone monster with really good clean sounds and GREAT distortion sounds!

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#9 Post by Big Bad Bill » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:35 pm

If you want a clean channel, forget the 5150 head-its not easy to get a nice clean sound form it. I believe the combo is a little better. But the lead channel is out of this world!

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#10 Post by DiMarzio » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:17 pm

ppvai wrote:hey thank you so much for the replies! :)
i though anyone would answer :?

so thanks,
well, i know that the engl its amazing
but i doubt that the gain in the screamer
is enough, for some heavy riffing like
dream theater, adagio etc.

im into the little heavy progressive,
and i would love to have a Good gain.
that i know that the 5150 has, but.
i think the engl has a better tone :?
i dont know really, beacuse i´ve never
test any of the two.
but i´ve seen some clips.

so im in a "dilema" between both

BUT i can recive some sugestions
or whatever you want to say, its welcome :)
You could always save up for a fireball?

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#11 Post by ppvai » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:12 pm

-hey thanks for the replies guys!
well, i thing the stallion its more clean oriented isnt it?
wich is cool! but i love always a good gain :)
can it get heavy?

-thanks 3b i already saw some samples!
pf! great lead chanel really! :shock:

-i would love to have the fireball, the problem is
that i will need to get extra cash for the cab :?

if you noticed the head its at the same price that the screamer combo...
does it woth it that much¿? :?


thanks again for the replies :)

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#12 Post by DiMarzio » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:53 am

ppvai wrote:-i would love to have the fireball, the problem is
that i will need to get extra cash for the cab :?

if you noticed the head its at the same price that the screamer combo...
does it woth it that much¿? :?
If you want an amp with good gain and pretty good cleans then yes! :D

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#13 Post by Lo Lo » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:13 am

ppvai wrote:-hey thanks for the replies guys!
well, i thing the stallion its more clean oriented isnt it?
wich is cool! but i love always a good gain :)
can it get heavy?
Yes my friend!

It comes with the Jekle and Hyde overdrive/distortion pedal.
The jekll side is a overdrive which I use alot. It's got just the right amount of classic TS-808 gain for me. Plus it has a bass boost switch to get that bottom end. Very simular to the Keeley modded 808. Even uses the same chip set.

The Hyde side is a heavy distortion side which is way too heavy for my taste. I play around with it every now and again. It's very versitile and can get very very gainy. It's just like a DS-1 and has a sharp/blunt switch and a added EQ knob so you can really scoop out or add mids. Great for metal heads. Once again very simular to the Keeley modded DS-1

Then there is insanity! You can run them both together and get that super saturated, balls out, feel it in your chest crunch

Then there's that lovely clean tone straight out of the amp. I tell ya, I can get any sound I want out of this thing.
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Workhorse Pony> 1x12 30watt all tube combo $875
Workhorse Stallion> 2x12 60watt all tube combo $1275
They both come with Jekll and Hyde pedal and a slick padded cover and the ability to change out different tubes types within minutes without paying a tech and sending your amp out.
http://www.visualsound.net/Amps_wh.htm

If you want a amp with GREAT gains and GREAT cleans with tone, tone, tone. Than yes, yes, yes!!!

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#14 Post by GregN » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:45 am

im begining to think that "lolo" is a sales person for visual sound
:lol: :wink:


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#15 Post by Big Bad Bill » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:55 am

Lo Lo wrote:It comes with the Jekle and Hyde overdrive/distortion pedal.
Such a shame to corrupt an all valve signal path with horrid solid state pedals!

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