23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

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23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#1 Post by Jeroen » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:10 pm

Did you attend this amazing performance of Steve Vai and the North Netherlands Orchestra?
Please post your reviews here!

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#2 Post by unicapb » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:28 am

The second concert, the radioshow and the Tom Trapp introduction were outstanding. The audience on this day was far more into it.

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#3 Post by MrsW » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:30 am

Stunning performance. Great singing by Steve, clear, strong and confident!

It was worth every minute of the 27 hour return journey by car. (But next time we fly...)

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Expaning the universe - great composer, not so great orchest

#4 Post by femalefan » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:08 pm

First a huge THANK YOU to everyone at the Dutch institutions behind this outstanding event. You gave Steve Vai another opportunity to shine as the amazing composer he is - and the fans the great pleasure to hear Steve's songs as he wanted them to sound in the first place.

We arrived in time for Tom Trapp's introductory talk which turned out to be very enlightning - and entertaining. Then we entered the great hall - and immediately wonderful memories from the "Aching Hunger 1" performance with the Metropole Orchest came back to me.

It almost feels like a no-brainer to state that Steve's performance was awesome. Of course it was, and he amazes me every time (with orchestra, the Breed, whatever)! But this was not only about Steve playing guitar, he was the (best imaginable) soloist in an orchestra performance of his music. When adressing the audience, Steve announced something unexpected - and that of course we would have expected this. However, what I had not expected is that I would a bit disappointed by the concert. Wow, that was a first! I had expected the NNO - a "full-blown symphony orchestra" - to sound even better than the smaller Metropole Orkest. I am sorry to say that this was not the case. And since this is the "Concert Reviews" section, I just write my impressions.

As soon as the NNO started with "Helios and Vesta", I found the performance less crisp and energetic than the one I had enjoyed some years before. The great thing about a symphonic orchestra is that it does not only sound very powerful, but also that every instrument group delivers a fibre to the fabric. In a great performance of a very good symphonic orchestra, you hear very clear, elegant fibres that make up something as beautiful as a complicated Persian rug. I have heard this before from various orchestras, but not on Saturday from the NNO. They often sounded a bit blurred, less accentuated. Maybe not as amorphous as a fluffy Flokati rug (as I said to Tom Trapp after the concert), but definitely not nearly as good as I had hoped for - and heard from the Metropole Orchest.

I'm not sure about the reasons. Tom was asked by someone in the prep talk, the guy had already heard the Friday performance and described the NNO very accurately as "less tight than the Metropole". If I understood Tom's answer correctly, he attributed this to the difference between a studio orchestra that is used to delivering a great variety of compositions "to the point" and the NNO where you need to coordinate more musicians per instrument.

Point taken - even more if the musicians do not face a Mahler, Brucker or Mozart symphony (= comfort zone), but something that other orchestras have claimed to be unperformable.

However, I think there was more to it. For instance, in the "dialogues" at the beginning of "Kill the guy with the ball", the violins and the woodwinds were audibly struggling with echoing Steve's lines. Some managed, some not quite, which turned the lines into blurred bands. In these moments, the orchestra did not seem 100% up to the task. Again, the Metropole musicians had mastered this (the DVD confirmed my memory).

Furthermore, I think the sound over the PA was not as good as it should be. It made the instruments much harder to distinguish - some parts sounded to me a bit like samples, not like the real thing. The point of a symphonic orchestra is that normally you don't need a PA to fill the room with sound. Yes, I know, the PA is necessary so that the rock drummer does not drown the rest of the orchestra. Unfortunately, he sometimes drowned them nonetheless. He did not sound like a part of the orchestra (again, that was totally different with the Metropole Orkest, their drummer blended in perfectly). As to the bass player - I very much missed Brian Beller!

The good thing: When the rock drummer paused, there also were some tremendously good parts. The oboist was great (and so into the whole thing that it was terrific to watch her), same goes for the xylophone and the bassoon player. And after overcoming the dismay I had felt at the beginnig of "Kill that guy...", I very much enjoyed "Lotus Feet".

I also found "Expand the universe" an awesome composition. I agree that it will need listening more than one time to digest it. It's much more complex than "Lotus Feet" with which I fell in love the first time I heard it.

And then there are the two parts of the concerts that I enjoyed most: Yes, of course, "For
The Love Of God". AND: The piano reductions performed by Mike Keneally. These 3 pieces (All About Eve, Pig, Ballerina) alone were worth coming to the concert! Mike's performance had everything I had sometimes missed at the NNO: Passion, a virtuoso command of the instrument, and an understanding of the compositions that brought out the very essence of Steve's music. That made my evening!!!

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#5 Post by unicapb » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:59 am

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#6 Post by amegari_hikaru » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:55 am

unicapb wrote:Check out my video's Mike Keneally performances of Vai's Oooo and Under It All on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QFG9S1V3Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efa4pYYiSQQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also on: http://www.keneally.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
under it all was just incredible!!!, the "tapping part" in the the solo sounds almost the same that in the record!, i love the way that mike sings...

by the way the video sound very good!

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#7 Post by Prezidentman » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:38 am

unicapb wrote:Check out my video's Mike Keneally performances of Vai's Oooo and Under It All on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QFG9S1V3Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efa4pYYiSQQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also on: http://www.keneally.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Insane!! Mike is an absolute genius! He never should've left the Vai band!

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#8 Post by unicapb » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:50 am

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#9 Post by Zongadude » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:04 pm

unicapb wrote:Check out my video's Mike Keneally performances of Vai's Oooo and Under It All on youtube
When I first heard the original "Under It All" on the "Real Illusions: Reflections" album, I couldn't stop crying: It was so beautiful !
Now when I watch and listen to Mike on the Groningen video, the emotional tears are back.

Thank you Steve, thank you Mike. This rendition of "Under It All" on piano (and vocals!) totally exceeds any of my expectations.
I 'm so happy ! :D

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#10 Post by femalefan » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:24 pm

unicapb wrote:Check out my video's Mike Keneally performances of Vai's Oooo and Under It All on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QFG9S1V3Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efa4pYYiSQQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also on: http://www.keneally.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
@unicapb Thanks so much for sharing these videos. I'm at a conference right now and did not bring any music. Your videos saved my day!
Btw, amazing quality. I put my blackberry on the bathtub for resonance ... hope the people in the room next to mine share my musical taste.

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#11 Post by unicapb » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:09 am

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#12 Post by mainitz » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:42 am

didn´t know that this kind of hyperlink is allowed here...
if you want more there are some HD videos and a photoshow in my youtubechannel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mainitz?feature=mhum#p/u" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

maybe we could open a open photo-upload/download-source for this festival. would be I nice idea for the webmaster

also check my new uploads to my facebook album!! (don´t know how to upload fotos to this forum)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1315505525" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

--> photoshow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspuyj1W6Go" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
--> in case the photoshow is blocked in your country, just visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etM__soHUBA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (muted)

I didn´t want to make too many videos, just because I have the opinion that you always miss some parts of the show while filming or photo taking. ok you need them to remember some years later, but watching the real show carefully is more important for me... for that, it´s really nice that so many people also uploaded videos !

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#13 Post by unicapb » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:02 am

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#14 Post by chetankhalid » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:24 pm

The second night was even better then the first one.
Joy beyond any rationality !
And a wonderful radio show recording. Energising and rejuvenating.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!! <3

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Re: 23 October 2010, Steve Vai Festival Holland

#15 Post by chetankhalid » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:27 pm

oh, and I forgot ... to hear Lotus Feet live was for me a dream come true :D

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