Exercise programs.

Discuss playing styles and techniques, or share your own here.
Message
Author
Goethe
Newcomer
Posts: 14
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:16 am
Location: Umeå, Sweden
Contact:

Exercise programs.

#1 Post by Goethe » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:15 am

Are there any COMPLETE exercise programs somewhere to be found on the net?
I've looked through the forum, but all I can find are different exercises for specific areas. Since I don't know how to compose my own program I would like to know if someone has put together a complete exercise program somewhere.


Jonny

theox
Member
Member
Posts: 151
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 2:38 pm
Location: Finland

#2 Post by theox » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:33 am

Haha that's funny, man! What's a complete guitarist?

77legend77
Member
Member
Posts: 81
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:02 pm
Location: UK

#3 Post by 77legend77 » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:00 am

a couple of months ago Vai published a 30 hour guitar work that seamed pretty intence and focused on everything - i thing it was in a Total guitar mag but theres always his 10 hour work out regem

atifman
Member
Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:50 am
Location: Illinois, USA
Contact:

#4 Post by atifman » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:52 pm

list everything you want to be good at on a piece of paper
find exercises for them
practice those exercises

of course you don't just want techniques in there, you can practice your songwriting (try to record a small tune everyday) or improvisation skills (find a backing track) or other stuff if you want. it's your practice regimen

zygote
Newcomer
Posts: 3
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:28 pm

#5 Post by zygote » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:52 pm

exercise programs?
Maybe you need this to strengthen your technique?

Maybe create your own, here are a few ideas.

Start with 8th notes to a metronome, 2 notes per string. ie: pentatonic/one position
Gradually increasing your speed.

When you feel comfortable:
move up 10 beats to push yourself for a few minutes then go back down a few beats per minutes, but higher than where you felt comfortable.

Example:
Start with 60Bpm,
Move to 70Bpm then back to 65Bpm, 60Bpm will become a breeze.

Start with a downstroke.
Ascending and Descending.

Use a harder downstroke on the beat and a light stroke on the upbeat, Learn to accent the downbeat.
Then vise verse.

USE DYNAMICS! Learn to play quieter and louder while keeping time.
Some people tend to want to slow down when they play quiet.
----------------------------------------
Advance players can use 3 notes per strings ascending and descending using triplets.
Then start with a upstroke.

Try using Intervals of 2's, 3's or what ever.
2's would be start on the root move to the 2nd, then 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th.. ect... then descend
3rds = Root, 2nd, 3rd - 2nd, 3rd, 4th - 3rd, 4th, 5th - 4th, 5th, 6th.. ect. then descend

3rds Example In C Major
E---------------------------------------------------------
B---------------------------------------------------------
G---------------------------------------------------------
D---------------------------------------------------3----
A-------------------3-----3--5---3--5--7---5--7--------
E--3--5--7---5--7------7--------------------------------

The possibilities are endless,
These are just a few tips to get your brain storming.

Goethe
Newcomer
Posts: 14
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:16 am
Location: Umeå, Sweden
Contact:

#6 Post by Goethe » Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:05 am

atifman wrote:list everything you want to be good at on a piece of paper
find exercises for them
practice those exercises

of course you don't just want techniques in there, you can practice your songwriting (try to record a small tune everyday) or improvisation skills (find a backing track) or other stuff if you want. it's your practice regimen
That's the thing... I would put them down on paper, if I only knew what they were... I know what a hammer-on and a pull-off is... And I know what a legato is... But what the heck is an arpeggio?

I know what I want to improve, but for me that's nothing described in guitar terms (since I don't know the name of 'em). To me it's more like "Woow, that fast section in that song would be really cool to play"...

I've seen a lot of exercises on the net but I don't really know what to make of 'em since there are so god damn many.

Is the 10-hour thing by Vai something that ye'd recommend?

Jonny

atifman
Member
Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:50 am
Location: Illinois, USA
Contact:

#7 Post by atifman » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:36 am

arpeggio is when you have a chord, and you play each note of the chord in succession.
off the top of my head, the main riff in Metallica's "Sanitarium", they arpeggiate (make into arpeggios) these chords:

Code: Select all

0--0--0--0--0-----
4--5--7--4--2--4--
2--3--5--5--3--5--
0--0--0------------
i'm not sure if Vai's workout is for you, because i don't know if Vai's workout covers the whole spectrum of technique.
Don't stick to Vai, check out other books by other artists. Personally i think John Petrucci's "rock discipline", and "Wild Stringdom" are good, but they still don't cover everything.

here's a list of techniques that i came up with and use:
Right Hand Speed (4-note-per-string)
Right Hand Speed (3-note-per-string)
Right Hand Speed (Down-Picking)
Legato
Tapping
Sweep Picking
String Skipping
Inside Picking

Bold_As_Love
Member
Member
Posts: 328
Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:00 am
Location: CA

#8 Post by Bold_As_Love » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:11 am

I made my own 10 hour guitar workout. Ill let you in a little bit on my secret.

if you practice only solos and scales and things like that, you'll only be really good at soloing. So you need to practice rythm and songwriting skills too.

dont want to give away all my secrets though.

Dazmundo
Newcomer
Posts: 18
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:50 am
Location: Boston

#9 Post by Dazmundo » Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:48 am

I have being using the professional guitar speed trainer for 3 months now and I have seen more improvement in 3 months than the last 3 years....

Gudy
Newcomer
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:46 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

#10 Post by Gudy » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:13 am

Are you talking about that cd guitar trainer by Tascam? I'm just curious cause I was thinking about purchasing one myself.

zipwolf
Member
Member
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:58 pm

#11 Post by zipwolf » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:28 am

One thing i always try to do is keep my general finger strength and speed up. Guitaring itself can do it, but considering the amount of finger exercises specifically for these two things that work better then simply guitaring, i do them in addition. Guitaring (and air guitaring to accurate scale patterns when bored :P) is more for coordination and actual playing.

When im not doing those, i do finger pressups, tiger claw grabbing, crane and eagle claw grabbing, and finger waving speed training for fingers.

Dazmundo
Newcomer
Posts: 18
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:50 am
Location: Boston

#12 Post by Dazmundo » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:56 pm

Nah, I mean the guitar speed trainer.

Check it out at www.guitarspeed.com 8)

Gudy
Newcomer
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:46 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

#13 Post by Gudy » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:43 am

Ahh. . .that looks pretty cool.

Goethe
Newcomer
Posts: 14
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:16 am
Location: Umeå, Sweden
Contact:

#14 Post by Goethe » Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:42 am

the real question is. Does it even work...? I've looked into some "programs" on the internet and I've been disappointed a couple of times.

Gudy
Newcomer
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:46 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

#15 Post by Gudy » Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:21 am

Yeah, I know dude, thats why I was asking if he was talking about the guitar trainer that tascam makes. I am interesting in getting one to tackle some pretty fast songs (dream theater, liquid tension), but some people tell me its awesome, and others say it makes the song sound like crap and you can't even hear whats going on when you slow down the speed.

Post Reply