Learning drums - without playing them?

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Learning drums - without playing them?

#1 Post by toddw7 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:54 pm

Hello. I don't have a drum set, but I have a a midi keyboard and would like to create more realistic drum parts to my songs (especially after listening to the drums in Vai's Naked Tracks - I really want to get better at composing them.) So, can anyone recommend books that have helped you in this area?

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#2 Post by Jeries » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:29 pm

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my personal suggestion/way i learned on my casio keyboard when i was 13 is...
watching lars ulrich play.
i know what you're thinking LARS SUCKS PORTNOY IS GOD...
fine...
BUT lars does play very simply and realstically and you can see in many videos/dvds what he's doing clearly... esp s&m, cunning stunts, and liveshitbingeandpurge

from there i learned to play the parts on the recording on the keyboard and think i can play drums equaly releastically on real drums and on a keyboard

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Re: Learning drums - without playing them?

#3 Post by Hakky » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:58 am

As a monkey-trained drummer,
I'd like to suggest in some sort of order:

Decide on the feel for your hi-hat or ride.
Is it fast? Slow? Straight 1/8 or 1/4 notes or does it have a particular rhythmic pattern?
Do you imagine a fast hihat part played with both hands or just a single sticking...

Is your ride pattern the same as the hihat if/when you switch over to it?
(Neil Peart of Rush has a classic ride cymbal pattern that I don't think I've heard other bands play, but half of the RUSH catalogue contains it.)

And just as imprtant--
What is your bass drum doing?
1/4 notes (barf)
Without hihat or ride, try to play around with the bass-snare combo to invent your own beats.
They can be slow and simple, then you can develop to be more technical or a deeper feel.

The snare drum:
Do you want it just as on beats 2 and 4?
Thats fine, its where most start out.

From there you can drop, wait, add, shift or speed up.
(ie Here I Am on UltraZone --> Windows to the Soul)
The developing pattern on Sex&Religion *song is super cool too...


When you get sick of normal 4/4
try listening to:
-Salamanders in the Sun for a Polka-ish feel
-Touching Tongues
-Under It All
these may stretch your staff and sticks!

As for drum fills-
My opinion-- try to make them unique!

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Re: Learning drums - without playing them?

#4 Post by toddw7 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:12 pm

Thanks for the replies!

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