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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:25 pm
by boswell
Big Bad Bill wrote: improvises 90% +, like out tutor, Ainsley does.
He just knows more licks than we do :wink:

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:41 am
by Jon Gunnar
Well I´m pretty sure that the fast part in For the love of god is improvised around a bunch of key patterns, as are lots of other Steve Vai songs.

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:47 am
by TonyMacalpine
Dyens wrote:I don't like the way that people are calling improvising "random". There is so much more to it than that.
+1. Jazz improvisers play the changes. I'm pretty sure Steve can and does the same. It really isn't random. There is a serious method to the madness.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:46 pm
by teokiatuan
TonyMacalpine wrote:
Dyens wrote:I don't like the way that people are calling improvising "random". There is so much more to it than that.
+1. Jazz improvisers play the changes. I'm pretty sure Steve can and does the same. It really isn't random. There is a serious method to the madness.

Why won't anyone listen to Tony Macalpine? :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:12 am
by another virtuoso
TonyMacalpine wrote:
Dyens wrote:I don't like the way that people are calling improvising "random". There is so much more to it than that.
+1. Jazz improvisers play the changes. I'm pretty sure Steve can and does the same. It really isn't random. There is a serious method to the madness.
for most people on this board their improvising IS random. because half the guitarist out there just learn little shapes and boxes to solo in and have no clue what its going to sound like before their ignorant fingers stumble across the strings, they just know as long as they can hit one of those dots in the box in the right key they'll be ok.

for a real musician this isn't a problem, but as we know, a large part of guitar players out there aren't actually musicians.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:45 am
by Dyens
I agree. I did that for a long time. Everyone has at some point or another. But a real improviser hears it all first because they relate the notes to the chord and understand the function of the note. And they do this at the speed of light.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:06 pm
by GuitarAlien7

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:15 am
by pagliai
I think the most important preciousness of steve is his way to work,to study.

His songs are written and he practice them so so so much ,then i think he practices them again and when he is satisfied...he begin to practice them :D

When he impro something he 's got his way his licks his patterns his stuff in my opinion he 's got the cult for the licks he adores to create a new lick.

In my opinion there are 2 Vais into Steve the composer and the guitarist.

Zappa School Issue.