Vai has no feel

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Re: Vai has no feel

#361 Post by notavirtuoso » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:38 pm

Sometimes if I play drunk I can't feel my fingers. It sounds incredible live but for some reason reviewing the recordings the next morning makes them sound a bit shit. Must be my equipment or bad engineering. Oh, this was about something different. Errr...ok. I got something for that too.

I wonder if some people may say he has no "feel" because he doesn't play bluesy stuff. Most rock guitarists it seems have roots firmly entrenched in the blues. Steve doesn't. I think maybe for some people blues=feel?

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Re: Vai has no feel

#362 Post by Big Bad Bill » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:12 am

I think the blues has an obvious kind of emotion to it, whether that's through familiarity (its everywhere) or its something inherent to it, I wouldn't want to speculate. The emotional content in Steve's music may be unfamiliar to many, and so they might miss it completely-like you miss words and sounds when listening to an unfamiliar language. But those of us who know Steve's music can hear the emotion as clear as a bell and indeed perhaps its so entrenched in us that we can't believe that other can't hear it! Steve's music is incredibly emotional and I'd say it has a much wider range of emotions than the blues etc but that's because I know and love Steve's musical language because I've made the effort to understand it.... and the rewards are manyfold!

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Re: Vai has no feel

#363 Post by bluepowder71 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:02 am

^^ very well said Big Bad Bill. I agree completely.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#364 Post by bennyvx78 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:30 am

Perhaps the music of mr. Vai is a little too intens and fast, It
frustrates the more "sensitive" people. Wich makes them say all these
unnecesary "hurtfull" things.. Vai music is not for everybody. And im glad he
kept his own unique character. I dig it!
:D.

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#365 Post by matic22 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:27 pm

I wonder how Whispering A Prayer would soud without feeling... :roll:

Steve has his soul in his fingers when he is playing!

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#366 Post by seeking 7 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:44 pm

Blue Powder... enough said!

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Re: Vai has no feel

#367 Post by tk777 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:06 am

I think your guitar teacher has got Vai mixed up with Yngwie


I like Yngwie Malmsteen by the way. I don't wanna upset any fans of his lol

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Re: Vai has no feel

#368 Post by LydianAlchemist » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:39 pm

Tender Surrender, Call it Sleep, and Melissa's Garden among MANY MANY others are perfect examples of Vai having monstrous amounts of feeling.

feeling is immeasurable so anybody who just simply doesn't like it will/can spew that insult/observation to mask their insecurities. The only thing you can truly measure is technique, accuracy, speed. Vai has all of them.
Tbh all music has feel if it was recorded by flesh and bone so that argument is kind of lame lol

I often find people listen to Vai with their eyes rather than their ears.

As for me Vai makes the ultimate musical statement (in my opinion) and that's why he is a role model for me.
But man if I could play as fast as Yngwie Malmsteen, or Micheal Angelo Batio...... o.o

OH and "I'm Becoming" from visual sound theories...that one almost made me cry.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#369 Post by guyver_dio » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:34 am

Big Bad Bill wrote:because I've made the effort to understand it!
that statement just goes completely against the way music should come across in my mind. In my mind, music should be directly linked to a persons emotions and align itself so well that almost anyone will feel that emotion inside when they listen to it. It should be as simple as you listen to something and you start to feel something inside you change, whether it's to anger, sadness, laughter whatever. If it doesn't do this straight away then it has missed the plot. That's how I think about song writing, you feel or think of something and you try and build something that tries to capture it perfectly. Putting in effort to understand a piece of music is like trying to make yourself fit in with a crowd that you don't belong.

Vai has always been a gimmicks and tricks sort of player, he likes to find something new and different and flaunt it and that's great. For me vai has always been on that edge where there's a lot of acrobatics and gimmicky stuff but there was still alot of work put into to note choices and progressions which kept it enjoyable. I'm getting the impression from him now that it's all about gimmicks. "I've been working on this technique where I pull up on the whammy on every second note I hit, sounds cool so here's a song I put around it". There's no feel in that, that's experimenting till you find something strange and come up with a song so you can put it in there. Maybe it's something he's exploring or a phase he's going through but it doesn't do much for me.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#370 Post by mstaaf » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:23 pm

Wow, what a bizarre thread on Vai's own boards.

I'm fairly new here and I'm constantly amazed at the wealth of information
members here will selflessly share and how often the wisest of statements are made
by the unassuming player or fan. This thread embarrasses me.

Unless I've missed something all music does one thing,
it conveys emotion. You may or may not agree with the emotion or feeling of
a specific or any(for that matter) of the songs Steve writes but to say
that it he has no feeling would make his songs sterile noise.
If that was the case no one would have had any connection with
it at all and we wouldn't even be posting or reading here on his site.

Granted it is all subjective i guess, but this definitely is not the venue
for being disrespectful.

I apologize for adding yet another post to this negative thread.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#371 Post by GregHM81 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:30 pm

Yeah, I heard stupid people talk and write shit about Steve, not only that, and also claiming that Slash is better. Of all the guitarist I've ever listened to, Vai, Satriani and Adrian Smith from Iron Maiden are the ones who inspire me, and that I actually feel something when I listen their solos.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#372 Post by Guitaruss » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:48 pm

Frankly I think this thread is a Troll and should be deleted !

To say vai has no feel is simply preposterous.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#373 Post by guyver_dio » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:47 am

It's the only major thread on the subject, granted a fairly pointless argument (you either like vai or you don't) but I don't think it should be deleted just because it offends your opinion.

Nope, vai has feel, let's censor all those who oppose it.

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Re: Vai has no feel

#374 Post by boswell » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:14 am

This thread is nothing more than healthy debate why delete it?

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Re: Vai has no feel

#375 Post by cbr1000f » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:39 am

I think I gonna make the "a guitar is not a musical instrument"-thread. Sounds as ridiculous as the title of this thread :D

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