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EMG pickups

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:24 pm
by cho_888
What do you guys think about the EMG 81 active pick ups, i played them in an ESP the other day and they were awsome, so much gain and the harmonic were so loud. i have been thinking about putting these in my RG570, good idea?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:55 pm
by accuracy
i was thinking about doing that at one point
i think its a pretty good idea
before nuying them, remember you have to make room for the battery
that might mean routing a cavity in your guitar...

soundwise, i love those p/u's
i tried them on a relic kirk hammet guitar and loved them
thats where i got the idea from
theyre so clear and pronounced!

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:25 am
by Wempukkah
Shock. One thing is for sure - i don't like EMG81 pickups at all. it fits fine maybe if you play some kind of power metal or something like that, where you might need lots of noise and "scum". The EMG81 pickups are very noisy and so on - you might even wonder what the hell is a thread like this doing on a Vai.com forum.

Think about changing those pickups again, I don't think it would be wise even for a guitar like rg570; maybe you could think of DiMarzio Evolutions or something like that. :)

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:21 pm
by Bold_As_Love
where are you getting your sources from?! Scum?! extra noise?! are you sure you've ever played EMG's? or are you just going based of the assumption that all the metal heads use EMG's, therefore they have lots of noise? make sure you actually use some before you make some outlandish statement like that. I put EMG's in all my guitars and they have the cleanest signal I've ever heard. Plus there active so they have a huge output. So because of the output and cleanliness of signal it makes overdrive and distortion sounds stellar. Hence the fact that metal heads use them, not for "extra noise" ive never played DiMarzario's before, so i cant compare, but EMG's are very good. Unlike you say. Larry Carlton uses them, he plays jazz. But i guess they like a lot of "scum" and noise when playing jazz, so i can see where your coming from. <----(sarcasm)

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:20 am
by Wempukkah
You have never actually played with good DiMarzio pickups? What a shame. Maybe you should first play with them and then tell your opinion. Even Seymour Duncan pickups are better that those dirtie EMG:s.

EMG? Phyi.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:53 pm
by Bold_As_Love
First of all, its a matter of opinion which is better. But the point of my last post was to say that EMG's are not dirty as you say they are. Not to bash DiMarzario or any other brand of pickups, but the fact that you are wrong in saying EMG's are "scum" and "dirty".

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:18 pm
by j.arledge
i have liked the dimarzios i have played, except the paf pro, and the fred they lacked power but weren't too bad.

i have 2 evolution bridge, one neck, a super distortion and an air zone and they are all great.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:11 pm
by Leftymonster
Wempukkah wrote:...The EMG81 pickups are very noisy and so on ...
ok, i have never played with EMG81 but i'm sure if it was "very noisy" as you said it wouldn't be used by many professional guitar player. although i think pickups like Evo has enough power.
Wempukkah wrote:...what the hell is a thread like this doing on a Vai.com forum.
:roll: i can't understand this!.. this forum is for Vai's fan not Dimarzio's fan!
...so as Neil Young said just "Keep on rocking in the free world" cho_888 8)

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:22 pm
by cho_888
EMG's noisey? they are the most quite pickups i have used and i have tried a hell of a lot!

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:08 am
by Wempukkah
Well I think this is a matter of taste, once again :D

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:22 am
by Bold_As_Love
hahahahaha

Re: EMG pickups

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:56 am
by Paul Secondino
cho_888 wrote:What do you guys think about the EMG 81 active pick ups, i played them in an ESP the other day and they were awsome, so much gain and the harmonic were so loud. i have been thinking about putting these in my RG570, good idea?
EMG's are active pickups. BEing active, they have alot of output. THe amount of output they have can lead to the "compressed" sound that some people complain about.Believe it or not, a good quality instrument cable can actually minimize the perceived "compression". But EMG's are actually very quiet,especially their single coils.

A good guitar player, a good guitar, and a good amp can make all the difference.I've heard magnificent tones from some EMG's and some really crappy ones too.

THe EMG 81 has a scooped EQ and perhaps too much high end which is why harmonics played on your guitar stand out so much. In comparison , the EMG 85 has more low end, more midrange, and a smoother high end. The EMG 89 is basically a 85 that can be wired to turn one coil off.This is similar to splitting passive pups.

The EMG 60 is a great neck pup. IT has a unique tone and is pretty much the signature tone that James used on MEtallica's "Nothing Else Matters clean sections. It's a very overlooked pickup.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:30 am
by Wempukkah
I think this "compressed" kind of sound is what I meant in the first place. The highs sound in this kind of tones very crappy, and soloing can sound very nasty. The EMG81 Pickups really aren't meant for soloing in my opinion.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:28 pm
by cho_888
at the shop we have a japanese ESP with 81's and playing through a triple super lead it sounds pretty good when you crack a solo. yes they do sound compressed! i am even thinking of buying another RG one with dimarzio's and on with EMG's

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:34 pm
by Bold_As_Love
Wempukkah wrote:I think this "compressed" kind of sound is what I meant in the first place. The highs sound in this kind of tones very crappy, and soloing can sound very nasty. The EMG81 Pickups really aren't meant for soloing in my opinion.
I solo with EMG's all the time. They don't sound like crap. They make my Fender amps overdrive sound awesome. You must have a vendetta against EMG's or something.