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Question: Durability of a JEM

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:12 pm
by VaiEvo
I'm considering buying a JEM7V, because I love Vai, but more importantly, I love the tone, feel, and speed of it's playing.

Anyway, I don't beat the life out of the guitar, but I ding them up a bit, I like the "worn" look. Do JEMs break easily or are they pretty strong and durable? I know Vai beats the crap out of his guitars, but I won't be doing what he does (not yet at least).

EVO

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:36 am
by Surfingalien
EVO lasts pretty long i gotta say 8) :D

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:57 am
by Zeds.Ded
over 20 years of abuse and still hanging together! (just about :lol: )

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:02 am
by calos
My Jem is almost 20 years old, (built in 1988) and it's still solid as a rock to play and has been seriousley abused over the years. heh

peace
cal

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:10 am
by guyver_dio
Yeah but it's only held together for so long cause it's been saved by major repairs. If they didn't do anything about that major crack down the back it probably would be unusable today.

I've failed to break mine yet and I'm pretty wild with it. I've never gone to the extent of purposely bashing my guitars into things though lol. The body could probably stand up to a thrashing though, I've dropped mine accidentally a few times and it's still rock solid. I'd be cautious of the neck though if your thinking about purposely dropping and bashing up your jem to get a worn look of course, Evo's been through a few necks :wink:

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:03 am
by VaiEvo
guyver_dio wrote:I've failed to break mine yet and I'm pretty wild with it. I've never gone to the extent of purposely bashing my guitars into things though lol. The body could probably stand up to a thrashing though, I've dropped mine accidentally a few times and it's still rock solid. I'd be cautious of the neck though if your thinking about purposely dropping and bashing up your jem to get a worn look of course, Evo's been through a few necks :wink:
Yeah, I'm not purposely bashing it up, I'm just saying I'm not afraid of nicks and dings, I think it gives a guitar character and each crack tells a story. I'm not going to be purposely smashing it or anything like that, I just play the hell out of my guitars.

And Evo's body crack will make the guitar unusable.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:20 am
by brentm
VaiEvo wrote:
Yeah, I'm not purposely bashing it up, I'm just saying I'm not afraid of nicks and dings, I think it gives a guitar character and each crack tells a story. I'm not going to be purposely smashing it or anything like that, I just play the hell out of my guitars.

And Evo's body crack will make the guitar unusable.
Actually, that's old information. Steve has said that Ibanez repaired the crack and it is now 100 percent stable.

As for the durability of the JEM. The weakest point on the guitar (and any guitar really) is the wood behind the nut. If it falls back just right, it may crack the neck.

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Any guitar has this problem. I fixed a buddy's Les Paul that fell off stage and had a similar crack. This crack, too, is very repairable.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:26 am
by VaiEvo
brentm wrote:Actually, that's old information. Steve has said that Ibanez repaired the crack and it is now 100 percent stable.

As for the durability of the JEM. The weakest point on the guitar (and any guitar really) is the wood behind the nut. If it falls back just right, it may crack the neck.

Any guitar has this problem. I fixed a buddy's Les Paul that fell off stage and had a similar crack. This crack, too, is very repairable.
Really? that's good info to hear, Evo's crack has been fully repaired? Wow, I must really be out of Vai news...

Yeah, I'm not going to intentionally drop the guitar or smash it, I just wanted to make sure JEMs were somewhat durable and could take a beating.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:34 am
by Zeds.Ded
those type of neck cracks are not to bad, like Brent said, very repairable, and easy enough to do yourself

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:34 am
by bancika
yeah, those cracks are very common, especially on angled headstocks. We had few customers with that problem. It's often reparable, but I wouldn't want my guitar to have this crack (but then I wouldn't like any cracks at all :))

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:03 am
by meandmrvai
bancika wrote:yeah, those cracks are very common, especially on angled headstocks. We had few customers with that problem. It's often reparable, but I wouldn't want my guitar to have this crack (but then I wouldn't like any cracks at all :))
Gibson has the worst problems with angled headstocks because as far as I know, where the angle is, its two pieces, the headstock itself is glued to the neck at the angle, you just cant see the joint because its been painted over, however it is there.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:44 am
by bancika
Ibanez necks also have glued on headstock (at least all I've seen). It's not that bad, joint has large surface, it's glued on both neck and fingerboard so it's strong enough. I think that's better solution that using thicker wood and then carving out angled headstock. We have one kramer here (customer wants new body) and it's made from one piece. With that approach wood grain isn't parallel with headstock making it more fragile, this one as few cracks on the headstock.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:22 pm
by VaiEvo
Anyway, seems like I'll be going with a JEM7v. Too bad they don't make the JEM77BRMR, otherwise I'd compare those two side by side.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:48 pm
by seljer
VaiEvo wrote:Anyway, seems like I'll be going with a JEM7v. Too bad they don't make the JEM77BRMR, otherwise I'd compare those two side by side.
they do make them, or did make them, only last year I believe.... Many shops still have them in stock

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:19 pm
by VaiEvo
seljer wrote:
VaiEvo wrote:Anyway, seems like I'll be going with a JEM7v. Too bad they don't make the JEM77BRMR, otherwise I'd compare those two side by side.
they do make them, or did make them, only last year I believe.... Many shops still have them in stock
Yeah, I know they had 'em last year... unfortunately my local guitar shop only does special order JEMs. So it's the JEM7V for me.

I like the Evo pickups anyway.