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What guitar is this???

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:02 am
by gonzo117
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Can anyone tell me the model of this guitar?
Is it even a Vai guitar?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:31 am
by RAI
At the very best, it's a entry-level Ibanez that has been appointed with some JEM details.
At it's worst, it could be a complete fake, and not even an Ibanez at all.

I like the this part:

"As you know,china have long history around the world.You can see this item very wonderful. It is a typical art .it is very important and significance for investigating the old Chinese culture.If you win it you will get good lucky.It is rare and good for collection.If you are Chinese items collector,please do not miss so better chance to get it.Enjoying your bidding!

Shipping cost: 178.00GBP"

x

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:33 am
by SPQR
can't be sure , but that looks like a fake jem, 90% of the fakes come from middle east soi just be sure what your buying, and ibanez sharkfins are'nt as narrow as that lol.

I personally think its a counterfeit.

x

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:35 am
by SPQR
RAI wrote:At the very best, it's a entry-level Ibanez that has been appointed with some JEM details.
At it's worst, it could be a complete fake, and not even an Ibanez at all.

I like the this part:

"As you know,china have long history around the world.You can see this item very wonderful. It is a typical art .it is very important and significance for investigating the old Chinese culture.If you win it you will get good lucky.It is rare and good for collection.If you are Chinese items collector,please do not miss so better chance to get it.Enjoying your bidding!

Shipping cost: 178.00GBP"
Yes what a load of bullshit quotes, if there is one thing i hate its people trying to make qucik money off ibanez's and steves time and work.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:12 am
by brentm
I have one word...


COUNTERFEIT!

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:23 am
by Jeroen
Total fake. Isn't worthy of your fireplace.

J

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:34 am
by brentm
Jeroen wrote:Total fake. Isn't worthy of your fireplace.

J
Ya, it'd be some serious toxic fumes.

There's some tell-tale signs on this fake. Most notable are the fact that this model JEM doesn't exist. However, on the more clever fakes there are some other tell-tale features to look for.

Most notable are the monkey grip, Ibanez logo justification (it isn't on the headstock in correctly). Although, I can only anticipate the counterfeit goods will be better (IOW, more difficult to spot in a photo).

They seem to be inscribing Ibanez on the tremolo and the back of the tuning machines, to add to the authenticity... but at the end of the day it's still counterfeit.

Someone from Hoshino mentioned that there are more counterfeit Ibanez guitars in China than real ones.

The only thing this activity does is bring down the prices (because buyers are more skeptical) of real JEMs and other Ibanez guitars. I've been beating my drum in hopes that Ibanez/Hoshino would do a better job of working with eBay to remove these fakes from the market... but as of now, it still is a "buyer beware" market.

Please visit this page for more information on the information we've gathered on the counterfeit JEMs circulating.


http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/ ... 1140459273

-Brent

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:43 am
by Jeroen
It's not very helpful to have Ibanez work against it on Ebay. (too time consuming, and there are countless sellers anyway).

They need to go straight to the source (and I think that's exactly what they are doing).

J

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:38 pm
by Igor
thats soooooooo fake on so many levels

horns are all wrong, trem is wrong, inlays are completely off, knob layout is wrong (though that can be a dif pickguard so thats not a giveaway), logo is wrong, etc etc

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:53 am
by wanted_lefthanded jem
lol it has too be 1 of the worst copy's i have ever seen i dont hope any gonna buy that :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:35 am
by Tayhan
I dont want to know of which wood this piece of crap is built of :lol:
It´s a fake dude. I´m sure.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:33 am
by wadso_
Tayhan wrote:I dont want to know of which wood this piece of crap is built of :lol:
It´s a fake dude. I´m sure.
Probably like plywood or seaweed or some other crappy material :lol: This has got to be one of the fakiest JEM's I've ever seen :x

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:57 am
by Igor
compressed seaweed LMAO!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:53 pm
by wadso_
Igor wrote:compressed seaweed LMAO!!!
Asians you know... They even eat it :shock: :wink: :lol: