First gutiar with a monkey grip handle?

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First gutiar with a monkey grip handle?

#1 Post by rythm_Futur » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:06 am

Aparently the first gutiar with a monkey grip was the 1988 washburn EC36
Is this true guys? And did Steve get the idea off this gutiar?

And has anyone being fortunate (or unfortunate) to play one of thoes horrible looking Synth and Midi guitars like the Casio DG20 and the Stepp DG1?

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Re: First gutiar with a monkey grip handle?

#2 Post by Jeroen » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:21 am

rythm_Futur wrote:Aparently the first gutiar with a monkey grip was the 1988 washburn EC36
Is this true guys? And did Steve get the idea off this gutiar?

And has anyone being fortunate (or unfortunate) to play one of thoes horrible looking Synth and Midi guitars like the Casio DG20 and the Stepp DG1?
Given that the Jem was designed in 86, and launched in 87, I think your info may be off. Besides that, well before the Ibanez Jem, Joe Despangi was cutting handles in all sorts of mongrel guitars :)

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#3 Post by rythm_Futur » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:38 am

Ha.

thanks for that. I know nothing about jems (blasphemy on a Vai forum) thankyou for setting me right1

I wonder if vai regrets putting the monkey grip on his guitar) im sure it can't be good for the tone and it sends some buyers away from the jem series.

Still!! a jem would not be a jem without the monkey grip

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#4 Post by EyE » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:55 am

rythm_Futur wrote:I wonder if vai regrets putting the monkey grip on his guitar
I don't think so, it's his trademark.
rythm_Futur wrote: im sure it can't be good for the tone
Man, ever heard a Jem? It has TONE! No doubt!! :wink:

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#5 Post by merlinlake78 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:21 am

I think it does,nt matter how wood you cut off or away ..
I got a jem and a gibson flyin' V and a stratocaster ..all diffrent
guitars ..in diffrent shapes and sizes ..and they all sound perfect.

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#6 Post by NatiFable » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:04 am

The Teisco Del Reys had them way back when. TG-64 (ET-320), 1965-has a 'monkey grip'.

Have a look.

http://www.teiscotwangers.com/

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#7 Post by merlinlake78 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:50 am

well ya could hardly call it a monkey grip..

But its nice ..

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#8 Post by NatiFable » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:06 pm

merlinlake78 wrote:well ya could hardly call it a monkey grip..

But its nice ..
Well, the Bigsby isn't a Floyd Rose either, but it all starts somewhere! haha

Monkey Grip? I never understood why it was named that?

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#9 Post by merlinlake78 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:25 pm

the designers used a little fantasy ..and thats allowed :-D.

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#10 Post by NatiFable » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:38 pm

merlinlake78 wrote:the designers used a little fantasy ..and thats allowed :-D.
They probably saw Vai throwing his guitar around like one of those Samsonite Luggage Gorillas!!!

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#11 Post by GTR-MAN » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:29 am

rythm_Futur wrote:Ha.

thanks for that. I know nothing about jems (blasphemy on a Vai forum) thankyou for setting me right1

I wonder if vai regrets putting the monkey grip on his guitar) im sure it can't be good for the tone and it sends some buyers away from the jem series.

Still!! a jem would not be a jem without the monkey grip
The monkey grip is functional and very handy. I never thought it would be so usefull til I got my own Jem(s). Now I wish all my guitars had the monkey grip.

The tone of a JEM is awesome, the monkey grip doesn't make you sacrifice tone at all. The Jem is a "tone monster".

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#12 Post by rythm_Futur » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:53 pm

But a jem by what I have seen has a bolt on neck, edge pro 2 (or something similer) and a hole in the side. This must all add up to a decresion of tone from the guitar?

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#13 Post by Moderator777 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:39 pm

rythm_Futur wrote:I wonder if vai regrets putting the monkey grip on his guitar
If he regretted it, don't you think he would have removed it after designing 20+ models?
But a jem by what I have seen has a bolt on neck, edge pro 2 (or something similer) and a hole in the side. This must all add up to a decresion of tone from the guitar?
All production Ibanez Jem's have bolt-on necks, floyd-style edge bridges, and the monkey grip. I've owned Jems and RG's and don't notice a difference in tone. I believe most of the tone is in your fingers and playing style anyway. If you are referring to sustain, I notice little difference between Jem's and RG's with equal hardware, wood, and electronics.

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