Mainstream Music, I don't get it

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I'm sick of turning on the tv, turning on a radio or walking into a music store and hearing another overproduced artist singing or rapping to background music that sounds like a midi system. Whether it's urban or Pop, the music is extremely boring. I know there's a few good bands that have made it into mainstream music, but you hardly hear them nearly as much than the rest of the crap.

Many people have said to me that they like that sort of music because it's great for car stereo's. That's fine, but how much of this stuff do they need, seeing your speakers flex and feeling the bass is all well and good but this kind of music has been produced since the late 80's onwards and i think it's starting to get a little old and boring.

I don't understand how people can like it so much, most of the artists don't have a talented bone in their body, i mean some of them have even been caught out on stage lipsinking to their music, and people still like them.

And why are the majority of these artists singers......not even singers... vocalists. Many people i talk to are lead to believe that it isn't music until it has lyrics.

Anyway I really dispise this type of music, what are some of your views on mainstream music.
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Unfortunately it has become a self fulfilling prophecy: "The Music Buisiness". It's a buissness.
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well,....i hate that kinda buisness. :evil:
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i despise pop urban r&b music and r&b stands for rhythm and blues where is the blues in it

thanx evo :P
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well, you don't under stand popular music, and most popular music fans don't understand our music either. just because someone doesn't understand someone elses music doesnt mean its bad. lots of people say that they hate jazz because htey think its just noise. they think that vai is just show off music. they think blues is just a bunch of pissing and moaning about a girl and we think that pop music is just stupid. as someone once said, opinions are like butt-holes. we all have one, and the only ones we can stand are our own.

please just see music as one big thing that everyone can take pleasure in. even mr vai likes pop.
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While you have a point Ryan - A line has been crossed. Alot of this modern "pop" music isn't true to itself. It has become all about making money and the image. It isn't as subjective as you make it out to be. I will boldly say: There IS good and bad music.
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i despise pop music but some of it is ok its just not my style and ryan you have a point

thanx evo :P
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It's not that subjective though. While it is true that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", many people aren't looking for beauty, they are looking for a lifestyle and a trend (and materialism). I can't think of anything but modern pop music that could supply such things without account for beauty or integrity. This is something I touched on in a chatroom discussion a while ago: Musical Integrity.
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brainpolice wrote:It's not that subjective though. While it is true that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", many people aren't looking for beauty, they are looking for a lifestyle and a trend (and materialism). I can't think of anything but modern pop music that could supply such things without account for beauty or integrity. This is something I touched on in a chatroom discussion a while ago: Musical Integrity.
Why keeping ones integrity and playing in front of 2000 people ,when giving it up allows you to play in front of 60000 people and makes you damn rich??!
Look at all these pop stars.They are what the labels want them to be.They become what is trendy right now.Thus allowing them to sell many many records and become very rich!
Poor Steve(and the rest of the G3 guys)didn't even play in Germany,because all our fucking event managers had no interest to see G3 in Germany! :evil:
Why should they,when G3 plays small venues.Miss Aguilera played in front of 80.000 people last summer!
I don't get it!
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I think it's all the mixers and recording companies that should get most credit in the pop world. The music is just too overproduced. I liked to see someone cover a pop song without the use of a kareoke machine or midi system, the way the artist as done it. Since when are artist not the main part of the music making process, i mean with pop, throw any porno actress or 'backstreet' boy on stage and you'll get the same impact.

And Rap. ok music is supposed to be about storytelling, and rappers deliver that through lyrics, but to me it's like the same story over and over again, about pain, heartbreak, girls and partying.
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Jemfever wrote:
brainpolice wrote:It's not that subjective though. While it is true that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", many people aren't looking for beauty, they are looking for a lifestyle and a trend (and materialism). I can't think of anything but modern pop music that could supply such things without account for beauty or integrity. This is something I touched on in a chatroom discussion a while ago: Musical Integrity.
Why keeping ones integrity and playing in front of 2000 people ,when giving it up allows you to play in front of 60000 people and makes you damn rich??!
Look at all these pop stars.They are what the labels want them to be.They become what is trendy right now.Thus allowing them to sell many many records and become very rich!
Poor Steve(and the rest of the G3 guys)didn't even play in Germany,because all our fucking event managers had no interest to see G3 in Germany! :evil:
Why should they,when G3 plays small venues.Miss Aguilera played in front of 80.000 people last summer!
I don't get it!
Pop stars only become rich when they contribute to writing the actual music, and not many actually do. After the recording company, film clips, writers, and alot of other expenses are paid, is when the pop stars get their share of the money, and it isn't much at all.
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guyver_dio wrote:
Jemfever wrote:
brainpolice wrote:It's not that subjective though. While it is true that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", many people aren't looking for beauty, they are looking for a lifestyle and a trend (and materialism). I can't think of anything but modern pop music that could supply such things without account for beauty or integrity. This is something I touched on in a chatroom discussion a while ago: Musical Integrity.
Why keeping ones integrity and playing in front of 2000 people ,when giving it up allows you to play in front of 60000 people and makes you damn rich??!
Look at all these pop stars.They are what the labels want them to be.They become what is trendy right now.Thus allowing them to sell many many records and become very rich!
Poor Steve(and the rest of the G3 guys)didn't even play in Germany,because all our fucking event managers had no interest to see G3 in Germany! :evil:
Why should they,when G3 plays small venues.Miss Aguilera played in front of 80.000 people last summer!
I don't get it!
Pop stars only become rich when they contribute to writing the actual music, and not many actually do. After the recording company, film clips, writers, and alot of other expenses are paid, is when the pop stars get their share of the money, and it isn't much at all.
Did Britney ever contribute to the writing process of her songs? :shock:
I don't think so,but undisputably she is rich.I agree that there are lot of people who earn much more money than the actual singer(record company,managers,etc..),but i think that the amount of records that is sold is more than enough for everybody involved.
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Thanks for the article.
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I think it's bizarre how on those shows like American Idol, it's not just the winner that gets the contract, but like everyone up to the 7th person left...it kind of defeats the purpose of having a winner, giving out contracts willy nilly doesn't it? Having said that the entire idea of churning these people out sickens me.
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