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GIANT ROBOT

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:57 am
by CymbalSplittingSkinbasher
I know someone else that is always doing something new & different & he puts out quality stuff at a rate that maybe even his peers envy, well, hopefully at least admire to some degree, maybe. I could be wrong on this one. :? :mrgreen: :guitar

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:14 pm
by miker
Big Bad Bill wrote:I think Steve is unique in that respect.
Yes. Along with Billy Sheehan and Eric Johnson -- even though they are not so prolific as Steve, they keep pushing the envelope.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:43 pm
by Zebula77
Hmm, wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but miiiiiiiiles away from the live solo on the 'Live Without A Net' video (IMO when he was at his absolute peak).

I feel bad for him. He used to be my biggest inspiration (yes, even more so than Steve) and he's just a shadow of that man now. Too bad. I still listen to those Van Halen records.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:23 pm
by Seraphim
He Really Got Me

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:00 pm
by ClarkyNZ
He can still rip my frets off in his sleep.... :?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:44 am
by Shredded Heat
That's a sad sight indeed. Sure, the guy can still wail, but he doesn't seem 'all there'. I have a friend who beat cancer but ended up a bit like that (although he doesn't play guitar)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:13 pm
by Mr. Wiggles
He wasn't drunk. If he was drunk he wouldn't have even been able to play a barre chord. Seen anything from the 04 tour? THATS Ed being drunk. This is just Ed being Ed. Maybe it wasn't amazing or mind blowing but its certainly a far step from the condition he has been in in the past year and a half. Hopefully he will continue to get better when he starts to go on tour again..

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:10 pm
by another virtuoso
well thats good news..i think.
i dont even bother touching a guitar after just one drink, i dont see how guys like dimebag could pull that off.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:29 pm
by budt
Mr. Wiggles wrote:Seen anything from the 04 tour? ..
Yes. I stood right in front of him at VH's Pittsburgh gig. You really couldn't notice when the whole band was playing, they sounded OK ... there was a point when Ed fell down. He got right back up, laughing. But when you are that close to the stage you pick up on the more subtle things. Like the other three band members looking at each other ... "uh oh ... here we go again". Like a couple of security guys sneaking up right behind Ed's 5150s and watching him intently for the rest of the show.

His solo without the band? I would never say I was better than Eddie Van Halen! Never in my life! So I will remain silent. And sad, 'cause I know we all care about the guy, you know?


[And yes, we do have a right to speak up. We pay those dudes!]

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:25 pm
by miker
I know what you mean budt. I seen some 2004 performances. And sure... Edward can play a hell of a lot better than me. But he wasn't at the top of his game.

I believe we'd all like to see him on top of his game. I certainly wish him Peace, Love, and Good Happiness Stuff... I'm sure all his fans want to see him do well.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:02 pm
by dutchie
Alot of people say that Eddie was drunk at the NAMM gig because his speech sounded a little slurred. Everyone seems to forget that he has about a third of his tounge missing... Thats why he sounds the way he does now.

Obviously, the 2004 tour wasn't one of his best tours, but you have to remember what he has been through. He had just beaten cancer... I've got a few DVDs of that tour and like I said, his playing wasn't as great as it has been in the past, but, I dont think I have ever seen Eddie so happy and having so much fun on stage. And you cant just blame the alcohol. He's been an alcoholic since basically the first album. I think he was just blowing off all the worries and pressures he was going through before the tour started. Also, not all the shows were bad show. Apparently, he was on fire for a few of them.

Also, don't judge him on the new NAMM footage or the porn soundtrack stuff he did. The NAMM gig, he was just noodleing. The soundtrack music is just that, soundtrack music. I've read posts (not here BTW) where people have said "this new stuff would never be played on radio" - "he cant write songs anymore"... Give me a break, its soundtrack music... What radio station would play a porno soundtrack...

Ross Halfin posted on his website that he has heard them rehease (w/ DLR)and he said the sound incredible. He said it sounded as good as they were back in the 70's / early 80's. I cant wait for the new tour. I hope they come down here (Oz, but I know they wont).

Dont judge him by one bad tour. He's going to blow everyones head off this tour. You just wait and see....

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:11 pm
by another virtuoso
dutchie wrote:Dont judge him by one bad tour. He's going to blow everyones head off this tour. You just wait and see....
I hope so! It would be an honor to have your head blown off by Eddie Van Halen. :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:43 pm
by budt
miker wrote:I know what you mean budt. I seen some 2004 performances. And sure... Edward can play a hell of a lot better than me. But he wasn't at the top of his game.

I believe we'd all like to see him on top of his game. I certainly wish him Peace, Love, and Good Happiness Stuff... I'm sure all his fans want to see him do well.
Truth be told, I didn't mean to sound so critical. I knew about the hip, the tongue, the ex ... but right before the '04 tour he gave an interview in Guitar World about how all that stuff was behind him and how he was kicking a$$. Anyone that read that interview would have been stoked. So after plunking down more $ for a ticket than I ever did in my whole entire life (until the big Cream reunion at MSG - but that is another story) and driving three hours each way, I deserved an ass-kicking!

So I just had to speak up. I wish him all that peace, love and good happiness stuff too. But if someone doesn't get through to him, we will lose him sooner than later.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:56 pm
by budt
dutchie wrote:... I dont think I have ever seen Eddie so happy and having so much fun on stage. And you cant just blame the alcohol. He's been an alcoholic since basically the first album. I think he was just blowing off all the worries and pressures he was going through before the tour started. Also, not all the shows were bad show. Apparently, he was on fire for a few of them.

Also, don't judge him on the new NAMM footage ...

Ross Halfin posted on his website that he has heard them rehease (w/ DLR)and he said the sound incredible. He said it sounded as good as they were back in the 70's / early 80's. ....
The '04 tour. Yep. He was having a blast, jumping around like a teenager. You could even tell he had spent some time in the gym. Even his fingernails were manicured the way you would expect a virtuoso guitarist's nails to be ... like Sharon Isbin, let's say. That's why his sub-par playing was such a mystery.

I finally checked out the NAMM footage. There IS a spark in there still. You can even hear the brown sound ... but he looks like a homeless person! His vibe and everything. He probably wasn't drunk at the NAMM show. It looks more like withdrawal, to me. Tryin' to get it together for one brief appearance.

So I hope Ross is right. What he says is what I want to hear!

Dutchie, did you catch the Sydney show with Gary?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:38 pm
by miker
He is missing half his tongue... he lost it to cancer. That has to affect his speech too, I'm sure.