Who played and wrote Ralph Macchio's parts in Crossroads ?

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Who played and wrote Ralph Macchio's parts in Crossroads ?

#1 Post by KeithH » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:01 am

Sorry if this has been posted a million times times before, I did try a forum search so sorry Mikey, jeroen etc !

Who actually played and wrote Ralph Macchio's parts in the crossroads movie ? if I rmemeber rightly, the credits at the end only say "Ralph Macchio;s guitar tutor, Ry Cooder" they don;t actually say who wrote and played it.

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#2 Post by Mikey » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:03 am

Ry Cooder performed the guitar parts during the duel sequence, with the exception of the end Paganini-inspired piece that he plays to win the duel. That part was performed by Steve.

I'm not sure if Ry Cooder performs Ralph Macchio's other parts in the film.

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#3 Post by KeithH » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:20 am

Thanks very much Mikey, you are the all knowing Oracle, aren't you !?

Seriously though, thanks Mikey. Very much appreciated. :D

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#4 Post by b2 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:20 am

Mikey, hmmm... I thought Steve played/recorded his parts during the duel?
For me it sound very much like Steve Vai, not Ry Cooder at all.
There are some fast parts in this "blues" duel that I cant believe
Ry Cooder played. The part right after Steve drops his jacket.
And at the end of the main duel before the classic part starts.
There are some agressive wammy bar pulling there, sound like
Steve :D
If this part is played by Ry Cooder... I am shocked! hehe

Did not Steve use some parts from this duel later in his song
Bad Horsie? The very opening of the duel, played by Steve in the movie.
So I guess Steve must have written these parts?

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#5 Post by seljer » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:50 am

yeah, I'm pretty sure Vai did all of his own parts (as you said, you can definitley tell) and only the Paganini part of the duel from Macchio's side.
All of the slide/blues stuff in the rest of the movie done by Ry Cooder (and I think they may have gotten someone else to do the few classical guitar parts in there as well?)

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#6 Post by -yasi- » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:22 am

In the astoria dvd steve said that the song bad horsie he wrote after he had to do a train sound for crossrads, there he found the idea for teh song so i guess he did the other parts :)

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#7 Post by lydian2000 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:35 am

honestly, I maybe wrong, but as stated above once u're familiar with steve and ry's styles it's IMHO pretty obvious who plays what, especially during the duel.

ry cooder is the master of slide guitar, and steve of nearly everything else on the electric. I think steve wrote and performed all of his parts in the duel(i think i remember him saying in an interview ry cooder was looking for a guitarists to play a "modern vs classic blues" duel and asked steve to write one) I'mpretty sure steve wrote and performed paganini's 5th caprice adaptation, and all his parts during the solo, the rest of the soundtrack is by ry cooder.

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#8 Post by mr_vai777 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:48 am

although we should trust what mikey says it doesn't make sense of steve to have someone else play his part.

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#9 Post by TongueNGroove » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:13 am

Mikey ment to say, "Ry Cooder performed ralph machio's guitar parts during the duel sequence, with the exception of the end Paganini-inspired piece that he plays to win the duel. That part was performed by Steve."

Obviously Steve played his own parts...no one can imitate steve to that degree.

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#10 Post by SPQR » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:44 am

I knew soemthing about ry cooder althought i always thought it was john lee hooker for some strange reason :o

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#11 Post by Mikey » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:45 pm

TongueNGroove wrote:Mikey ment to say, "Ry Cooder performed ralph machio's guitar parts during the duel sequence, with the exception of the end Paganini-inspired piece that he plays to win the duel. That part was performed by Steve."

Obviously Steve played his own parts...no one can imitate steve to that degree.
Thanks for clarifying - yes - that's what I meant, but I thought it was clear that I was referring to Ralph's parts only, as that was what the question was.

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#12 Post by SPQR » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:09 pm

steves part are pur vai like lol

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#13 Post by b2 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:45 pm

Mikey wrote:[... but I thought it was clear that I was referring to Ralph's parts only, as that was what the question was.

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Oh... I missed that, sorry!

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#14 Post by Stephen Brown » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:49 am

This is near enough the way I play it. (no 28th fret,hit the harmonic instead)
http://usuarios.maptel.es/jbercher/eugene.htm

Thing is though if you look at the vid Ralph plays the Amin another way.

What I'm asking is...is there another fingering for this out there?ie The way Steve plays it?

Just look at the vid & tab & your dig.

Don't bother. It doesn't really matter. I'm happy the way I play it anyway.

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#15 Post by calos » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:08 pm

FRETPICK wrote:This is near enough the way I play it. (no 28th fret,hit the harmonic instead)
http://usuarios.maptel.es/jbercher/eugene.htm

Thing is though if you look at the vid Ralph plays the Amin another way.

What I'm asking is...is there another fingering for this out there?ie The way Steve plays it?

Just look at the vid & tab & your dig.

Don't bother. It doesn't really matter. I'm happy the way I play it anyway.
If you _look_ at the video, then you'll _know_ Ralph can't play a guitar, and your tab is pretty much there, and the last A note, it's "fretted" on the second pole-piece of the neck humbucker.

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