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Congrats to Les Paul

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:22 pm
by thecrumb
Well if anyone (besides Steve) won - I'm glad it was Les Paul.

I'm sure Steve would agree that if there were no Les Paul - I doubt there would be a Steve Vai. Between his guitar playing and his innovations in recording and the instrument itself - all modern guitarists owe him alot.

Read more about Les Paul at the Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Paul

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:42 pm
by miker
Yah... guess I gotta admit I was rooting for Steve... but I woulda been very surprised if Les Paul hadn't won it.

I mean... damb... LES freakin' aye PAUL. Whattya gonna do. Congrats to Les Paul... and I hope he feels better and get's outta the hospital real soon.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:54 am
by Big Bad Bill
I really thought this had to be Steve's year to get the Grammy since Lotus Feet is just sublime. But.................

But this type of award is probably strongly influenced by trends, sycophancy and 50-60 years old record company execs thinking what will improve their profits rather than influenced by artistry, skill and musicality something that Steve produces by the bucket load!

An award would've been nice, but in my eyes at least, and I'm sure in all of yours, Steve and his music are always winners!

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:23 am
by Gofis
Big Bad Bill wrote:But this type of award is probably strongly influenced by trends, sycophancy and 50-60 years old record company execs thinking what will improve their profits rather than influenced by artistry, skill and musicality something that Steve produces by the bucket load!
I share your opinion. Of course that Grammy is biased, everything is, but i am a bit surprised that steve is so much excited about that. of course, steve like any other human wants some affirmation for his work, but i thought that he is one of those who wont seek it at Grammy. By this i do not ignore that steve truly cares for his fans, and that they are also huge affirmation of his work.

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:35 am
by Bono
Unlucky this time Steve :( Congrats on getting the nomination though, and congrats to Les Paul.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:22 am
by General Zod
The only one of these songs I've heard is Lotus Feet. That song was better than any award Steve could receive for it.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:53 am
by lydian7
The Grammys. A self-gratuitous excercise in promoting their mainstream crap to the lowest common denominator of society. These awards shows are totally subjective, and hold no real significance to real music critics, and for that reason I'm almost glad Steve didn't win a grammy, it just shows his material is too thought provoking and original for such fake bravado.

The Oscars are just as bad, and just as shamefully decadant. Thank god the film world at least has a tasteful, educated awards ceremony in Cannes. The music world just needs to follow suit.

Dick Bakker at Dutch radio 2 (Schiffers.fm)

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:07 am
by sisterinlaw
I am at the office right now. We always listen to Dutch Radio 2 here. This week they only play music from the 60s! Suddenly I heard Lotus Feet. At first I didn't even realize, it sounds familiair to me after all, but it certainly broke my concentration. WTF?

Than I heard Dick Bakker talking about how dissapointed he is about Steve not winning the Grammy. Dick Bakker is the conductor of the Metropole Orchestra. He talked about Les Paul that he is obvious a great artist but was in doubt about how new it all is what Les Paul does/did.

Dick Bakker also talked about Aching Hunger and Steve composing and arranging especially for this project. How difficult it was to learn that music with all the odd timesignatures and other technical difficulties. But it sure was fun. He also mentioned working with other "Zappa artists" He also mentioned the audience was more than half from abroad. And not only Germany and Belgium but even from USA en Japan! (And Ireland, Italy, France etc... ;) )

And of course he never expected it to be nominated for a Grammy. He seemed really dissapointed to me. He had not heard the news. He said he didn't hear anything so he assumed it was Les Paul, again.

Great to hear Lotus Feet played and people talk about Steve and the Aching Hunger at another radiostation than 4FM! That's good!

Sis. 8)

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:29 am
by CymbalSplittingSkinbasher
What I'm sick & tired of is everything having to be hip/hopped & rapped up. They cater to that crowd way too much. You got guys like this Willi dude running around rappin' to Sly's music, they're out there with the marching band air-humpin' it, just PATHETIC it is. Linkin Park & JayZ come out & then they start doing Yesterday, & then McCartney came out & sang the lyrics, BUT, while he's singing, you got JayZ standing next to him goin': "Ooo yeah, u-huh, dat's right," again, PATHETIC! Absolutely horrible, & I just don't see what's so appealing about it. Also, for a second there, I thought that dude in white was gonna pull an Uzi out from under his suitcoat, scary man!

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:19 am
by Moderator777
CymbalSplittingSkinbasher wrote:What I'm sick & tired of is everything having to be hip/hopped & rapped up. They cater to that crowd way too much. You got guys like this Willi dude running around rappin' to Sly's music, they're out there with the marching band air-humpin' it, just PATHETIC it is. Linkin Park & JayZ come out & then they start doing Yesterday, & then McCartney came out & sang the lyrics, BUT, while he's singing, you got JayZ standing next to him goin': "Ooo yeah, u-huh, dat's right," again, PATHETIC! Absolutely horrible, & I just don't see what's so appealing about it. Also, for a second there, I thought that dude in white was gonna pull an Uzi out from under his suitcoat, scary man!
Amen brother! I got a feed of the grammy awards and I thought Madonna was going to open the show. Instead, there was some animation going on and a few minutes later a couple rappers walked out and did their 'thang'. I stopped watching when I heard one word from their mouth. I'd prefer to have my scrotum slowly twisted off then watch the grammy awards. I think the last highlight from years past was Simon and Garfunkle and before that Steve's live performance. When there is talent, I'll tune in.

I really wanted to tune into the grammy awards this year to see if Mariah Carey was going to burst a seam and have a major, major wardrobe malfunction.

Another thing that pisses me off is the political statements. Why should I listen to high school dropouts tell me how I should think? Just shut up and sing your songs written by someone else!

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:23 am
by GreenMeanie
CymbalSplittingSkinbasher wrote:What I'm sick & tired of is everything having to be hip/hopped & rapped up. They cater to that crowd way too much. You got guys like this Willi dude running around rappin' to Sly's music, they're out there with the marching band air-humpin' it, just PATHETIC it is. Linkin Park & JayZ come out & then they start doing Yesterday, & then McCartney came out & sang the lyrics, BUT, while he's singing, you got JayZ standing next to him goin': "Ooo yeah, u-huh, dat's right," again, PATHETIC! Absolutely horrible, & I just don't see what's so appealing about it. Also, for a second there, I thought that dude in white was gonna pull an Uzi out from under his suitcoat, scary man!
I agree! It is definitly not about talent it is about sellability. Rather sickening!

Grammy's

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:33 am
by powerfuless
Yeah those medley things are so gross it's like an incestous nightmare: Jay-Z and Paul McCartney???? That was like when Elton John played with Eminem and I was like, "You stupid old queen don't you know that jerk raps about killing off gays like you?" It's just really really hideously hideous.

Porcupine Tree has a great song about the music business and the chorus is "One of the wonders of the world is goin' down and no one cares."

But, then again, there are pockets of great stuff happening. We might not find music we love in the mainstream but look at this message board, our favorite artist has a record label and tours and has a website. Vai might never be a part of that mainstream crowd but then again why would you want to be???

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:51 am
by Magnifico
I heard les paul's nominated piece, and Lotus Feet was alot better, I guess he was chosen more based on respect and age.
In my eyes Steve is the winner, hes the best, most inspiring guitarist to ever walk the earth.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:09 am
by CymbalSplittingSkinbasher
I'll tell ya man, when Paul walked out there with LP & JayZ, I was thinkin': " NO WAY!!!, there's no way Paul's gonna start rappin'!!!" :shock: Paul was kinda lookin' at JayZ like, "WTF are you doin'!?," but after the song he put his arms around both of them, so what do I know? Is it just me though, or did it look like JayZ didn't want to put his arm across Paul's shoulder? They panned away for a sec, so he might've done it then, but if he did, I didn't see it. If he didn't, would that be considered "a diss."

When that Kayne, or whatever dude said something about: "I've been here 2 yrs. in a row & I better win ' cause we don't want no trouble up in here do we?" I felt like throwing a brick through my tv. :roll: If things keep up like this, pretty soon the Grammy's are gonna have to start passing out bulletproof vests at the door!

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:12 am
by The Eterna Player
did you noticed that the more artistic and difficults categories are the ones that get the less attention, all the pop and the rap is in the top, and instrumental forgotten at the bottom, Steve vai don´t need a grammy when linkin park can get one singin with jzay or whatever, it´s not worthy.