The crossroads guitar

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#16 Post by shredace » Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:34 pm

WellDressedLoser wrote:I don't think Steve would ever give the green meanie away. They haven't invented a worthy place for it to go yet. Someday there will be the equivalent of the guitar's hall of fame or smithsonian, and they should get it, not a burger franchise...
The Green Meanie is indeed in the RnR Hall of Fame, I know cause I've been there to see it and trust me its there, I stood there looking at it for a half an hour. It's in a display case on the ground floor.

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#17 Post by Ekim » Sun Jun 29, 2003 9:54 am

LGM Guitars wrote:I wanna know where the eventide was too, for the last note in Ralph's solo LOL!!!!!! that nice big harmony, wow, what a deal.
That was GOD, speaking through the Tele, shaking his metaphysical boodie in the Devil's face. Nana-nana-nah-nah!!!

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#18 Post by RAI » Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:00 pm

Ekim wrote:
LGM Guitars wrote:I wanna know where the eventide was too, for the last note in Ralph's solo LOL!!!!!! that nice big harmony, wow, what a deal.
That was GOD, speaking through the Tele, shaking his metaphysical boodie in the Devil's face. Nana-nana-nah-nah!!!
Well, in a way it was God speaking........
There is no Eventide in use on that track.
That's just Steve doing alot of multi-tracking.
Steve isn't a very big fan of doing harmonies with the Eventide.
If he uses it for a harmony, it's usually only for a single harmony (like the riff for "Erotic Nightmares" or "Blowfish")
He mainly uses the Harmonizer for other strange effects.
"Alien Water Kiss", "Ballerina 12/24", "Kill The Guy With The Ball", or other effects, not quite as obvious.
Like having a delay at certain, specific repeats, or a delayed signal react in various ways (such as being pitchshifted or something of that nature).
Massive harmonies?
Nope, he just doesn't like the way it sounds.

So, the question isn't where is the Eventide....
The question is, where are the other 15 guitarists????

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#19 Post by Matwey » Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:50 am

RAI wrote: So, the question isn't where is the Eventide....
The question is, where are the other 15 guitarists????
The question is: if there was plenty of Harmonizers already back in 1984, WHY NOT TO USE 'EM?? :?:

http://www.eventide.com/oldies/

http://www.eventide.com/profaud/h910.htm

http://www.eventide.com/profaud/h969.htm

H969 Harmonizer* 1982-1986 Precision pitch control
H949 Harmonizer* 1977-1984 The first "deglitched" pitch changer
H910 Harmonizer* 1975-1984 The first high-quality, electronic pitch changer
HM80 Harmonizer* 1978-1983 Our first entry in the MI market

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#20 Post by RAI » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:07 am

Matwey wrote: The question is: if there was plenty of Harmonizers already back in 1984, WHY NOT TO USE 'EM?? :?:
Even though Eventide Harmonizers have been around doesn't change the fact that Steve isn't a big fan of the sound.
When it comes to harmonizing, he's not particularly keen on the sound they produce, as well as the fact that the harmonizing is strictly diatonic, which is WAY too limiting for our ol' buddy Vai.

Most people think Steve is using a harmonizer, when he is actually doubling and harmonizing manually. Squeals, squeaks, pick scratches, pinch harmonics, whammy and wah moves...
That's alot of work!

No wonder he's so busy!!!!!!!!

:lol:

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#21 Post by davester1234 » Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:12 pm

I believe Rai is 100% right on this subject! :)

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#22 Post by Captain Martone » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:17 pm

Hey guys how about getting back to THE QUESTION? We all know the guitar in Crossroads is a Charvel or Jackson. But what became of it? Such a sexy guitar should have a good home and be well taken care of -- well Steve (AKA Mr. Butler) did drop the guitar quite harshly in the end. I'd be a bit pissed too if I could not get an "overdub from hell" in any headcuttin' duel!

I doubt the guitar was the actual one used on the recordings. But I have been crazy to find a Charvel or Jackson JUST LIKE IT since it looked tooooo cooool in the hands of MR JACK BUTLER. I would kill for a decent pic of this guitar

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Re: Crossroads Guitar

#23 Post by RAI » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:11 am

Captain Martone wrote:I have been crazy to find a Charvel or Jackson JUST LIKE IT since it looked tooooo cooool in the hands of MR JACK BUTLER.
Metallic red body, two humbuckers, ebony fret board on a maple neck, black headstock, chrome hardware.
If my memory serves me right, that's about it.
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#24 Post by Grandor » Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:36 am

You talkin bout the guitar in that duel the red one with black hardware.

I prefer the tele looks sik.

tho nothing beats the JEM look.

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#25 Post by shader » Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:07 am

maple fretboard i believe

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#26 Post by RAI » Tue Jul 22, 2003 10:32 pm

shader wrote:maple fretboard i believe
Yep, you're right.
But chrome hardware.
(Edit: looks like it's got black tuners, but chrome Floyd....)
Video here:
http://www.vai.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php ... ight=watch

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Jack Butler............

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#27 Post by goldmeanie » Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:21 am

i swear to god... when i went to the rock&roll hall of fame in cleveland... i sprinted toward the green meanie and nearly gave myself a concussion on the damned plexiglass, so yes.. the gm is safe and sound

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#28 Post by GTR-MAN » Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:30 pm

I read somewhere that the guitar used in crossroads was turned into the green swiss cheese guitar used in the Yankee Rose video....then got stolen I think. :?

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#29 Post by 80s fan » Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:34 pm

Word wrote: No it did not go on to be come the Green Meanie. The Green Meanie was at one time a Charvel with a sunburst finish.
Hmm i believe Steve Vai himself said that the guitar in crossroads became later on the grean meanie.

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#30 Post by RAI » Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:22 pm

This is from the Green Meanie page in the "Machines" section of Vai.com:

"The "Green Meanie" is actually a Charvel Strat-style guitar loaned to Steve by Grover Jackson (of Jackson Guitars) when Steve joined Alcatrazz. Originally a sunburst finish, Steve stripped it and painted it day-glo green, and it has eventually become covered in various stickers, etc. This guitar was used on "Disturbing The Peace" and for virtually everything on "Eat 'Em & Smile". It has since been retired and is safely locked away."

And as far as I can tell, it's referring tho this guitar (or at least one like it):

http://www.vai.com/Machines/guitarpages/guitar067.html

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