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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:28 pm
by miker

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:38 pm
No idea man, but im sure u need to edit this your post, as no auction sites are allowed

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:25 pm
by miker
I don't think so man... it's not my sale. I'm not gonna profit from it.

- Advertisements or links to live auctions, except for official Vai-related auctions or charity auctions.

While this is not an official Vai-related auction... it does claim to be Vai-related. How else can Steve's peeps check it without a link? If it's copacetic... cool. If not and false claims are being made, they can have the auction pulled for false advertising. I've not see this guitar in the "Machines" section of (did I miss it?)... though I'm sure it is not a complete roster of all the guitars Steve's had.

At least you've checked the forum rules though. :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:35 pm
by quiksilver98
I say: SHCAM!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:56 pm
by RAI
Whoever is doing it, isn't a total idiot (if they're trying to scam someone).
Alot of the info is believable/accurate (like the LACS serial#, and time-frame), so it's a tough call....

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:02 pm
by miker
Yah. I'm not for sure... I don't buy the thing about the knob being moved... the original position seems to be where it is on current Jem configs.

Lotta detail though... dunno.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:02 pm
by notavirtuoso
Well, based solely on the seller's history, if it's a fake they don't know it. 1062 transactions and only 1 negative feedback that's at least over a year ago. Been selling since 01, sold 19 items this month. Interesting. Whoever locks this thread, do you think you could confirm the authenticity of this?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:19 pm
by VaiEvo
It can't be a prototype, didn't Steve first design the JEM in the 80's and that doesn't look like a standard JEM scheme?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:57 pm
by RAI
It's not a 1st JEM prototype, but the revised JEM.
The AANJ version came out with the 7VWH in '93 (believe), so this would be in the right era.
If it's true, that is.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:38 pm
by miker
A couple of the claims on said prototype, are that:

1) It is one of three used for Steve to compare different types of woods for the guitar body (this one is Bass Wood, the other two are claimed to be Mahogany and Alder) and a fixed bridge was used to keep things simple in the sound comparison between the guitars and also to speed the manufacture of these test guitars -- to get the final version ready for market sooner, with all the frills).
2) It is one variation (one of at least three?) of the low profile neck joint for Steve to evaluate.

The text of the ad is a good read... if nothing else (if this is BS... the guy knows some stuff, as was said before).

It's a claimed prototype of the Jem 7V series... NOT the first Jem prototype. It would have been used to fine tune new features on the new guitar like the neck access joint and possibly what wood to use for the body.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:50 pm
by quiksilver98
After reading that and the ad I think it's quite possibly real. If i was him I would contact Mikey and get Mikey to confirm.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:33 am
by resha
I think earlier prototypes were actually made in Japan :roll:

And ... why would Steve have a fixed bridge proto?!

I remember the Ibanez guy who got Him the protos saying that Steve totally took apart those guitars before actually playing them, so I guess it would not have been a fixed bridge work if it was so "strange" to dis-assemble them!

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:27 am
by brentm
Steve does have a couple of fixed bridge guitars.

The control and jack cavity looks to be the correct shape, as does the monkey grip. Definitely Ibanez parts and not knock offs....

I'd say it's probably a prototype... Interesting that LACS would engrave the serial number on it.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:47 am
by seljer
The weird thing is that its got both a pickguard and the back cavities :?
I was thinking that they first just had the back routed out, but when they moved the volume knob they added the pickguard to cover the old hole....but that old hole is still there so I assume the pickguard was there from the very start..... performing the role of guarding the guitar from the pick :P ?...or is it that thing about Steve preferring the pickups to be mounted to the pickguard rather than to the body.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:01 am
by RAI
That is interesting....
I didn't notice that at first.
That is not a front-routed guitar at all.
If you look where the p/u switch is at, you can see the body through the hole. A pickguard was added to a rear-routed guitar.
Why not just use a front-routed, like all the other JEMs?