Does Vai rely on a box for distortion?

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meandmrvai
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Or does he use the amp for his distortion settings and to get a bigger, beefy sound on songs like Giant Balls of Gold and The Attitude Song?
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I'm pretty sure he uses both a Boss DS-1 and an Ibanez Tubescreamer, depending on what sound he wants.
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he usually only uses them to boost his gain channel on the legacy, but now he's using the prototype Jemini pedal, wich is a tubescreamer and ds-1 all in one!
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Zeds.Ded wrote:he usually only uses them to boost his gain channel on the legacy, but now he's using the prototype Jemini pedal, wich is a tubescreamer and ds-1 all in one!
But, on Steve's Legacy demo, he says he's plugging straight into the amp (with a little delay) and the tone is just the same as his album tone!

http://www.carvin.com/vai/vaidemo.mp3

So where is he using a stomp box? Why would he need to push the gain anymore on a high gain amp?

I've also never understood why we guitarists are are so careful about using valve amps for the great tone and then stick a solid state stomp box in the signal path-often with cheapo components in them! It seems contradictory.
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Big Bad Bill wrote:So where is he using a stomp box? Why would he need to push the gain anymore on a high gain amp?
Bill remember that the Legacy is not a high gain amp as a Rectifier or a Jsx are. Also Steve sets His drive at about 6, so He does not push it to the limit... maybe He likes his pedals to give a major boost effect, both in terms of gain and volume 8)
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resha wrote:Bill remember that the Legacy is not a high gain amp as a Rectifier or a Jsx are.
Oh, I didn't realise that.
resha wrote:Also Steve sets His drive at about 6, so He does not push it to the limit... maybe He likes his pedals to give a major boost effect, both in terms of gain and volume 8)
So he uses the Tubescreamer as a signal boost?
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as a gain boost.

~A
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if you watch 'The Animal' on the live at the Astoria dvd, you can see Steve stomp in a ds-1 at some stage near the start
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anuj wrote:as a gain boost.

~A
Relying on the great RI:R gear fest by J, which you can find here: http://vai.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14856

you can clearly see DS-1 and TS's levels and gains.

So I think they both act as a volume and gain boost simultaneously :wink:
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Well now he's using the new dual distortion pedal that he just finished designing with Ibanez called the Jemini. I hope it comes out soon.
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i think he uses them to boost up the amp channel. it will add more character and better response.
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jun_gats wrote:i think he uses them to boost up the amp channel. it will add more character and better response.
Yup
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it will also give you a lot more noise.
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quiksilver98 wrote:it will also give you a lot more noise.
It depends on the way you set your boosts.
And on your cables.
And on your equipment in general.
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Yeah, you might still need a suppresor.
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