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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:45 pm
by notavirtuoso
I'm really torn between the Bogner and the Legacy. I love the tone in Warm Regards, it just grabs me, but the tone from Alive in an Ultra World, especially Whispering a Prayer is downright magical.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:15 pm
by VaiEvo
I just heard "Sex & Religion" for the first time (album), and that is a seriously AWESOME album with great tone, I'm just a bigger fan of his current Carvin Legacy tone. To me, it's more "Vai".

But, I must say, I'm truly torn between the Bogner and the Legacy. I'm gonna have to go Legacy.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:32 am
by resha
VaiEvo wrote:I just heard "Sex & Religion" for the first time (album), and that is a seriously AWESOME album with great tone, I'm just a bigger fan of his current Carvin Legacy tone. To me, it's more "Vai".

But, I must say, I'm truly torn between the Bogner and the Legacy. I'm gonna have to go Legacy.
S&R was one of the best lead sounds I've ever heard. I love it!

Cutting, screaming highs and tight, punchy, loud bass with a little mids... Amazing :P

I think that was a Soldano sound :twisted:

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:18 am
by Samuele
resha wrote:
VaiEvo wrote:I just heard "Sex & Religion" for the first time (album), and that is a seriously AWESOME album with great tone, I'm just a bigger fan of his current Carvin Legacy tone. To me, it's more "Vai".

But, I must say, I'm truly torn between the Bogner and the Legacy. I'm gonna have to go Legacy.
S&R was one of the best lead sounds I've ever heard. I love it!

Cutting, screaming highs and tight, punchy, loud bass with a little mids... Amazing :P

I think that was a Soldano sound :twisted:
Hey folks, you know actually I think it was a VHT Classic power amp and a Marshall JCM-900, mixed with an ADA MP-1 preamp. Check out this interview excerpt from back then ('93):

"GW: What kind of guitar tone did you have in mind for Sex And Religion?

Vai: I put a lot of research into that. The only way to really tell the way any piece of equipment sounds, is to bring it into the studio, record something with it, then record it again with a competitive piece of gear on an adjacent tape track and A/B them, which is what I did. I went to ridiculous lengths to compare instruments, amplifiers, microphones, strings and everything else I used on the album. I mean, I filled the room with amplifier heads. Name one – it was in there. And all the preamps. I decided on my Marshall Heritage head for the majority of the sounds – what I call a Heritage, anyway. It’s a JCM-900. I used that mixed with the ADA MP-1 preamp. I chose a VHT power amp, which is a real workhorse, and real metal sounding. The cabinet I went with was a Marshall slant-top with 30-watt Celestions."


This is where you can read the full interview (Steve talks a lot about gear in that one): http://www.theultrazone.com/articles4.cfm

Sure, Steve's tone on S&R is one of the most amazing ever, but I still favor his current tone (with the Legacy) more than anything else.

Peace. :)

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:25 am
by resha
Yeah I was referrign to this: http://www.vai.com/Machines/livegear_sex_religion.html

Maybe His studio setup was different from the live one?!

And now I'm wondering: what was the actual use of heads like those (Soldano, Marshall, Bogner) altogether?! :shock:

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:46 am
by Ugur Dariveren
resha wrote:And now I'm wondering: what was the actual use of heads like those (Soldano, Marshall, Bogner) altogether?! :shock:
I always wondering that :lol:

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:54 am
by resha
Maybe 3 different lead sounds?!

Both rhythm and lead with different settings probably? :roll:

Those heads are beasts, so... :twisted:

delay settings?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:59 am
by rowla
Great post

some fantastic moments here. can't decide between

Eat em and Smile
The Animal
Rescue me or bury me (as someone said previously, crystal clear and so pure)

I do have a question, Steve's tone in the early DLR days, is there a delay pedal in there it almost sounds like a harmonizer. I've always loved the sound but never kown how to achieve it (besides practie!).

The best example I can think of is the legato intro to Shy Boy but it's all over that album. I've also heard it in early Richie Kotzen (up to and inluding Electric Joy) and Jason Becker.

If this is a delay is it achievable on a Boss DD or are we talking Eventide and studio gear?

hope someone can help

Col

Re: delay settings?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:03 pm
by resha
rowla wrote:The best example I can think of is the legato intro to Shy Boy
No effects at all!

Steve used to double most of His guitars during that period :wink:

So what you actually listen to is nothing but... ehm... "2 Steves"

:D

aha!

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:36 pm
by rowla
Thanks Resha

Simple but very effective.

Col

Re: aha!

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:47 am
by resha
rowla wrote:Thanks Resha

Simple but very effective.

Col
Are you talking about my answer or about Steve's recording technique?

:) :D :P :lol: :wink:

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:06 am
by rowla
Rosha

Definitely refering to the recording! I had always thought there was some fancy studio delay or harmoniser used.

thanks for your help

Col

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:56 am
by BSBoy
Expo 92...the best sound ever.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:04 am
by tweezersguitar!
Probably the 'eat em and smile' tone...but i like them all really :)

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:30 am
by Murder Soul
Marshall.
For the Love of God.